Shooting for Hippie song era CSNY

[crazyhooks]

Here it is ...

Juan, thanks for submitting What Do We Know. The listing is asking for "songs with great melodies and lyrics that sound like they came from those decades..." and "both the vocal performance and the musicianship must be top-notch." This song would need to be more in the vein of the referenced songs and bands to work for this film. All source music will need to blend in with the artists' original songs in the film and the style and sound of this era.

[rdance]

you nailed the era john...writing, vocal harmonies, performance...nice! arriving late to this conversation...yeah, tambourine or similar 60's percussion would round it out nicely...but not necessary imho.

[RockChild56]

You did it again that's about all I can say. One thing I did notice some of the Harmonies sounded a bit TC Helicon (Perfect)
but it does sound good.
Good Luck

[Casey H]

Juan
This sounds, writing and arrangement-wise, close to CSNY. The thing that jumps out at me is the harmonies have an unnatural, artificial sound. Did you use a harmony generator or heavily tune?

Sometimes, it does veer off the CSNY vibe with the bouncy rhythm, especially at the end.

My take is the vocal sound was the real show-stopper.

Best,
Casey

[Robtoons]

I would have forwarded this.
I'm going out on a limb with my ear- I don't think John used any melodyne here.
If you listen to some CSN stuff, it sounds autotuned, but they didn't have that then.
It's the same effect I think John may have used here- called really good tight vocals.
Now don't shoot me down Juan!
Cheers! -Rob

[crazyhooks]

Really appreciate the comments guys and support, just baffled about this kind of review .
Rob: appreciate that man ...You really hit the nail on the head there.
Casey :this is just me with no autotune plugins , Im a bit of a purist when it comes to 60s 70s 80s voxs. And to know these members are getting it and feeling it should be a forward but not the screener? Makes me question " do you know the genre your screening ?
The chorus harmonies are done in one take because I love imperfect perfection
That's what those records were REAL.

but I appreciate your feedback, I'm going to stick to my Beatles.

[Casey H]

Really appreciate the comments guys and support, just baffled about this kind of review .
Rob: appreciate that man ...You really hit the nail on the head there.
Casey :this is just me with no autotune plugins , Im a bit of a purist when it comes to 60s 70s 80s voxs. And to know these members are getting it and feeling it should be a forward but not the screener? Makes me question " do you know the genre your screening ?
The chorus harmonies are done in one take because I love imperfect perfection
That's what those records were REAL.

but I appreciate your feedback, I'm going to stick to my Beatles.

Hey Juan... There's something about the overall sound of the vocals that's bothering me. Glad they are au natural and sorry if I thought otherwise... It must be something else about the vocal mix. But that's just me and I readily admit to a tin ear.

Best,
Casey

[CrimsnSyrn]

Hey Juan,

I loved this song, and I would have forwarded it!! You blow me away with how spot on your vocals and arrangement always are. Super impressed.

I think you completely nailed the song, vocals and instrumentation.

I'm guessing by the review, that they're saying that the production sounds too pristine and modern - just my guess - "All source music will need to blend in with the artists' original songs in the film and the style and sound of this era" - IMHO you got the style down perfectly, but to me it sounds like a newer recording.

But I STILL would have forwarded it - hands down!!!

Juliet

[crazyhooks]

Hey Juan,

I loved this song, and I would have forwarded it!! You blow me away with how spot on your vocals and arrangement always are. Super impressed.
I think you completely nailed the song, vocals and instrumentation.
I'm guessing by the review, that they're saying that the production sounds too pristine and modern - just my guess - "All source music will need to blend in with the artists' original songs in the film and the style and sound of this era" - IMHO you got the style down perfectly, but to me it sounds like a newer recording.

But I STILL would have forwarded it - hands down!!!

Juliet

Thank you Juliet , I really appreciate that very much
The review is too vague for me" Vocal performance must be top notch" has to fit in etc ... I mean what did I submit here ...a waltz ?
what are you phoning it in? I dont accept that when I perform live and not here as well.

Like u said Juliet , some of them find the reason " not to Forward" instead of forwarding to opp.
Can I digress....but this review is reminding me of this...
And Im not about to write in about this " CSN Return" as Im waiting on "multiple Disco/Funk returns issues that many memebers chimed in on "A FORWARD"
where the listing asked for "Bee gees/ KC Sunshine"and the screener said " Too Old school for my references " ??
Ok....Who's no getting this right ? is the listing not written properly? or does this person think Disco is something else?
Why are you screening this genre? and why are you posting a listing with taxi?

J.

[CrimsnSyrn]

I feel your pain, Juan.

If your vocal isn't top notch - I don't know what is. I have come to the conclusion that some screeners are in a rush when they're writing, and they don't have a clue as to the implications their rushed words infer. I can't believe this screener meant to imply that your vocal and instrumentation weren't top notch - I just cannot believe it - to me they are flawless, so it leaves me to conclude that they're just copying and pasting part of the listing in as "filler feedback" when they're short on time, - and giving them the benefit of the doubt, ( ) Assuming it was a Y/N listing and there was a serious time deadline- they must have been rushing. But I wish someone would tell them that no words are better than words that have been carelessly written (or worse yet, copied and pasted), and I have to think this is the case.

I really hate when they put this "This song would need to be more in the vein of the referenced songs and bands to work for this film" - saying that the referenced songs are "more in the vein" they're looking for - (that should be obvious since they put them as references!), but they don't tell you HOW your track is not enough in that vein...

IMHO this is a case of a screener who looked for a reason NOT to forward vs. all of the SO VERY MANY reasons to forward. Couldn't they forward with a note to the sup like "production might be (i.e.) a tad on the modern side (or whatever the actual reason was ), but you need to hear this - in all likelihood could be tweaked..."

Quite honestly, I can't imagine a better track for the listing, and I would love it if ML would do a TAXI TV showing us what DID get forwarded. The other listing (Disco/Funk) that you're waiting to hear back on, was that the same screener as this listing?

Nevertheless, it's an awesome track, and in time, it'll SURELY find a nice (hopefully generously paying) home.

Juliet