space rock/ambient music fans?

[silvercord]

Howdy,My name is Geoff Nostrantand this is my 1st posting( Kermit the frog yayyyyyy~!)nice to meet you all here, I am happy to join this site from fellowtaxi member and friend, Steve Sholtes.I am curious to see if there are any lovers of ambient music in the house, as i feel its my strong card, and love creating beautiful/haunting/dreamlike atmospheres...as well as the yang genre to my yin: "wall of noise" space rock I've just got my foot in the door and I hope to open itwith some new friends and colabers here!thanks much and hope to hear from you!peacegeoff

[vicky]

hey there...glad to meet ya....I like alot of different music....but recently I've been listening to and working very hard on electronica for listings here at Taxi....the screener called my song 'Buntzz' ambient, but I'm really investigating sub-genres and everything I can....It's cool that you have a friend here.....are you going to be submitting anything to listings...I'd be curious to see what you're doing....It's also cool that you sort of know what taxi is about (I'm assuming your friend said something besides "can't wait for my discount". ).....It took me over a year to realize that there was a thing called a 'music library' and that's what we're trying to get our music into....I found out on the forum, which I joined recently...2 months ago...without this forum I know I'd be lost....good to have ya here....I'd like to hear what you're up to....If you're interested, you can listen to....Buntzz...or ....Shift.....athttp://taxi.com/vickythebassplayeroh by the way these tunes are a little out for submitting to listings, so don't use them as good examples...good luck in your music,Vicky

[ibanez468]

Quote:my name is Vicky by the way....That's right...Vicky "the bass playa". ibanez468

[vicky]

paults.....Quote:Sending all the tracks to a reverb, and then sneaking it up until it can barely be heard is a great way to give a multi-track mix some of the sense it was all recorded at the same time, or in the same room. That's one of the "tricks" that is especially useful when combining real instruments, Virtual instruments, loops, synths, etc....I'm combining all types of instruments and loops...you mean ..take the mixdown and create another track with reverb, and then mix that down?...when I line up these tracks should it be an identical track and then put reverb on the one track? and then maybe use a limiter or compression usually dictated by genre? that's a weird correlation, but that's the first thing I notice sometimes...I've been the multiband compression surgeon to get my tracks to sound "in the same room"..with the reverb.... I need to figure some things out, because I'm creating little time issues messing with the loops...I lock them but I'm still hearing time inconsistencies. ...while I'm on that...are loops meant to be perfect? I try and try to make them so, and even my program tells me they are, but over time one loop inevitable starts leaning on another and suddenly the beat feels like it's getting placed differently...I'm alway re-setting things....on a microscopic level...which becomes its' own problem....geoff....I'll pm you ...sorry your thread went off point....I wonder where that fits in with forum etiquette? keep on with the music everyone Vicky

[paults]

Quote: ...I'm combining all types of instruments and loops...you mean ..take the mixdown and create another track with reverb, and then mix that down?...when I line up these tracks should it be an identical track and then put reverb on the one track? ...are loops meant to be perfect? I use Sonar, which uses a hardwired mixer looking interface, so the below is pretty much in those terms:If your software allows it, you can use an effects send on the entire mix to add reverb, and then mix it in ever so slightly. You may have to roll of some of the the low end of the reverb to keep things from getting mushy, depending on the type of mix. Or, you can use a send on each channel, all routed to an effects buss that has a reverb in it. The advantage to doing it that way is you have control over the amount of each signal that is going to the reverb. For example, you might not want any bass in it at all...Coincidentally, I also use Ozone 3 for mastering most of the time - the reverb in it can be used to add depth to a track without overpowering it.As far as loops go, I've not run into that issue with Sonic Foundry/Sony drum loops. But, if a the loop isn't exactly the right length, a tiny error would start to show up after several repetitions . If you have a troublesome loop you want you use, rather than stretching it to loop, try inserting it multiple times, on the beginning of each measure (or subdivision of a measure). That will keep it from creeping out of time, even if you are in 7/4

[vicky]

wow....there are so many things to try....mazz..Quote:Learning to use aux sends and returns is a valuable skill in mixing because it allows you to use one reverb for a number of tracks.is this instead of a submix or the same thing ?thanks for the input....I'm starting small ....I tried the reverb shadow on my drum submix for a funk thing.....It sounds really good....I'm new with the names of this gear, but i'm learning that ....I don't have it? ...Geoff...I use Adobe Audition...keep on rockin'Vicky

[silvercord]

its a great idea Paults~since i am rhythmicly impairedi do my drum stuff in reason. with the effects and automationabilities there...im a happy camper, truly.til not long ago i always get picked on by the drummer bully thatgave me his piece of mind on how it sounds like crap...but thanks to reason and Sonic Refill drums, i receive no moreverbal wedgies! muhaha

[vicky]

mazz....and everyone.....great info!!!I will learn the buss next...I know what it is conceptually, but I've never told my computer to do it.....only watched when using a real board..you know what.....I had a revelation just now....no one could hear the drums on one of my latest failures , I went back and now I realized the drums were so phased out that no one was hearing what was stuck in my head.... oh well...can be fixed...Thanks,Vicky

[vicky]

Quote:friends of mine say ...man i wish i was as good as so and so....but i tell them...where ever you are at...enjoy it..embrace itlove what you have now, and kill the ego to compare, and youwill find yourself dropping the idea of your own limits andexpanding brilliantly : )you must be a Buddist....I'm with ya!!!I understand what people are going through when they are expressing frustration on this forum and other places, but "the second you're thinking about that stuff you're not thinking about the music"and that's my only thought about it.....seriously don't entertain those kind of thoughts!!! they'll just get bigger and worse..I like your thread about teachers, because it's the shortest way from point A to point B on certain topics.... when you think you don't need a teacher...that's where the trouble starts....and maybe I should take my own advice, and get an engineering teacher.....but....that's what you guys are for ?Vicky