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Strengthen The Topline

Post by rtundo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:44 am

Am I on point that the chorus is not popping enough in this submission? (Kinda flows in from the verses) The examples in the listing do the same thing. I think??

What I like most about this song:
You did a great job establishing the tone and vibe musically. The track is engaging and has an acoustic vibe that's in range of the references.

I think you could improve this song by:
Hi Robert, I would strengthen the topline and track melody. Your song needs to be catchier overall, the hook appeal isn't strong enough.

I returned or forwarded this song because:
Your song didn't have a strong, catchy lyric or topline melody. You need a hook that makes the song more addictive lyrically.

https://www.taxi.com/members/kOaf6PixRc ... lways-glow

S241229SS
Genre: Indie/Alternative, Singer/Songwriter
Closes At: Dec 29, 2024 11:59PM PST
INDIE/SINGER-SONGWRITER SONGS with Male or Female vocals are needed by a Film/TV Music Publisher for an (up to) $12,000 placement in an upcoming Feature Film for a Major Streaming service!

This Publisher is looking for Songs in the general stylistic wheelhouse of the following references they sent us:
"Where's My Love" by SYML
"Coastline" by Hollow Coves
"Do You Rise" by Ian Randall Thornton

Quoting the Publisher: "We need lyrically meaningful songs, that evoke strong emotion and have quality production."
Please submit Indie/Singer-Songwriter Songs with a strong emotional presence, meaningful lyrics, and great production. The emotional context of these tracks can range from happy, sad, uplifting, introspective, etc. Your submissions should have memorable motifs, captivating vocal performances, unforgettable melodies, meaningful choruses, engaging rhythms, solid arrangements, and well-crafted lyrics. Instrumentation should be organic-based and stay in the general ballpark of the references and other similar tracks. Please ensure that any virtual instruments or samples you use are high-quality, modern, and very realistic sounding. Great vocal performances (Male or Female) with emotionally captivating deliveries will go a long way in helping get this Publisher interested in your Song!

Avoiding references to specific names, dates, times, places, brands, and profanity could make your Songs easier to place. Do NOT copy the referenced examples in any way, shape, or form. Use them only as a general guide for tempo, tone, and overall vibe. Do NOT submit any material with unauthorized samples of any other artists’ music, sounds, or any other form of media. Broadcast Quality is needed.

AI ALERT: This company does not accept or sign music that has been lyrically or melodically composed using generative AI, nor does it accept backing tracks, full instrumental tracks, or vocal performances created with AI.

The estimated license fee for these placements could be up to $12,000, depending on the ultimate use. This Publisher offers a NON-EXCLUSIVE, 50/50 deal. You’ll split any applicable sync fees 50/50. You’ll keep 100% of the Master rights and the Writer’s share, and the Publisher will get 100% of the Publisher's Share for any placements they generate. You must own or control your Master and Copyright to submit for this opportunity. Please submit as many Songs as you’d like, online or per CD. All submissions will be screened and critiqued by TAXI. Submissions must be received no later than 11:59 PM (PST) on Sunday, December 29th, 2024. TAXI # S241229SS

TAXI # S241229SS
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Re: Strengthen The Topline

Post by funsongs » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:14 pm

rtundo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:44 am

I hope I did the links correctly. It's been awhile.
Sorry - no - that link leads back to the TAXI home page.
Try again.
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Re: Strengthen The Topline

Post by rtundo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:24 pm

Thanks
I relinked it in the original post. Hope it works now

Also here:
https://www.taxi.com/members/kOaf6PixRc ... lways-glow
https://www.taxi.com/industry#listing-S241229SS
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Re: Strengthen The Topline

Post by RealPickle » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:38 pm

rtundo wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:24 pm
Thanks
I relinked it in the original post. Hope it works now

Also here:
https://www.taxi.com/my/artist/songs/OR ... lways-glow
Still no.

It goes where it's supposed to now but you need to make the track public for us to be able to access it.
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Re: Strengthen The Topline

Post by rtundo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:41 pm

I have the track and my profile public. Have to keep working on it I guess. Thanks!

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Re: Strengthen The Topline

Post by telefunkin » Wed Jan 22, 2025 1:43 pm

None of the links work, even in the re-post. Instead of hoping though you could test them yourself first.
- Paste your link somewhere, like in a text document or notepad.
- Log out of Taxi
- Close your browser (and better still, clear the broswer cache)
- Reopen your browser
- click on your link and see where it take you

The most common results are:
- 404 Error
- Taxi Industry Listings (but all of them rather than a specific one)
- Taxi Login - You must be logged in to access this page

You got the last two :)

Note that you also have to make your tracks public for anyone else to be able to listen to them. Also, expired listings are removed from the listings page (although they can be found elsewhere).

Sadly, every few days there's another post that includes broken links, so you're far from alone in having such difficulties. I wish Taxi would make it easier to get right, or at least make some forum orientation tutorial showing how best to navigate the challenges, Anyway, better luck next post :) .
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Re: Strengthen The Topline

Post by rtundo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:08 pm

Thanks for the tips!

I think the song link is working. At least for me.


https://www.taxi.com/members/kOaf6PixRc ... lways-glow

Critique:

What I like most about this song:
You did a great job establishing the tone and vibe musically. The track is engaging and has an acoustic vibe that's in range of the references.

I think you could improve this song by:
Hi Robert, I would strengthen the topline and track melody. Your song needs to be catchier overall, the hook appeal isn't strong enough.

I returned or forwarded this song because:
Your song didn't have a strong, catchy lyric or topline melody. You need a hook that makes the song more addictive lyrically.



The listing goes to main listing page even when I link it from the critique. Anyway it's here:

S241229SS
Genre: Indie/Alternative, Singer/Songwriter
Closes At: Dec 29, 2024 11:59PM PST
INDIE/SINGER-SONGWRITER SONGS with Male or Female vocals are needed by a Film/TV Music Publisher for an (up to) $12,000 placement in an upcoming Feature Film for a Major Streaming service!
This Publisher is looking for Songs in the general stylistic wheelhouse of the following references they sent us:
"Where's My Love" by SYML
"Coastline" by Hollow Coves
"Do You Rise" by Ian Randall Thornton
Quoting the Publisher: "We need lyrically meaningful songs, that evoke strong emotion and have quality production."
Please submit Indie/Singer-Songwriter Songs with a strong emotional presence, meaningful lyrics, and great production. The emotional context of these tracks can range from happy, sad, uplifting, introspective, etc. Your submissions should have memorable motifs, captivating vocal performances, unforgettable melodies, meaningful choruses, engaging rhythms, solid arrangements, and well-crafted lyrics. Instrumentation should be organic-based and stay in the general ballpark of the references and other similar tracks. Please ensure that any virtual instruments or samples you use are high-quality, modern, and very realistic sounding. Great vocal performances (Male or Female) with emotionally captivating deliveries will go a long way in helping get this Publisher interested in your Song!

Avoiding references to specific names, dates, times, places, brands, and profanity could make your Songs easier to place. Do NOT copy the referenced examples in any way, shape, or form. Use them only as a general guide for tempo, tone, and overall vibe. Do NOT submit any material with unauthorized samples of any other artists’ music, sounds, or any other form of media. Broadcast Quality is needed.

AI ALERT: This company does not accept or sign music that has been lyrically or melodically composed using generative AI, nor does it accept backing tracks, full instrumental tracks, or vocal performances created with AI.

The estimated license fee for these placements could be up to $12,000, depending on the ultimate use. This Publisher offers a NON-EXCLUSIVE, 50/50 deal. You’ll split any applicable sync fees 50/50. You’ll keep 100% of the Master rights and the Writer’s share, and the Publisher will get 100% of the Publisher's Share for any placements they generate. You must own or control your Master and Copyright to submit for this opportunity. Please submit as many Songs as you’d like, online or per CD. All submissions will be screened and critiqued by TAXI. Submissions must be received no later than 11:59 PM (PST) on Sunday, December 29th, 2024. TAXI # S241229SS

TAXI # S241229SS
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Re: Strengthen The Topline

Post by RealPickle » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:11 pm

Works now.

So are you asking if the critique is fair, or are you asking for clarity on what they meant?

To me, what you said up top is it--the chorus doesn't sound like a chorus, it just sounds like more of the verse. There's no lyric or melodic hook in the chorus that grabs you or is very memorable.

That's at least my interpretation of the feedback you got.
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Re: Strengthen The Topline

Post by rtundo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:51 pm

Thanks, glad it works. The reviewer didn't specify song parts such as chorus etc. I'm trying to understand what the reviewer was referring to. I don't hear strong toplines or melodies that pop out in the reference tracks either. They are great tracks but the toplines are subtle. There is not a huge transition from verses to choruses. The bridges due tend to have increased energy. I could add an exciting hook to the chorus of my song but I think it would change the vibe in such a way it would no longer fit on a playlist with the reference tracks.

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Re: Strengthen The Topline

Post by Casey H » Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:58 pm

Rtundo

I was able to listen at one of the posted links.

It's very far off the mark from what's described in the listing: unforgettable melodies, meaningful choruses, etc. Your song doesn't have a chorus. Listen to the first reference and how the melody uses higher and varied notes in to make a stand-out chorus. Also, the vocal performance, arrangement, production, lyrics, etc. aren't where they need to be for THIS listing.

Keep in mind this is for a possible $12K sync deal which makes the bar VERY VERY high.

After a while, members get to read and interpret listings better and better. Early on, we ALL have done "wishful" listening, thinking it's a fit when it isn't.

This does not mean it's a bad song. Just not a fit for a listing like this. I WOULD encourage you to write chorus driven songs in the future: verse-chorus-verse-chorus-(bridge)-chorus. This is the tried and true formula that has the greatest chance of commercial success. That doesn't mean a song can't make it without that structure, some modern songs do, but it's best to go by the rules at first and break them later. Sectional contrast is very important. If you're not familiar with the term as far as songwriting, there are lots of books that help.

Don't feel beat up!! We've all been there.

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