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Post by mazz » Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:10 am

Hi all,Just posted a Tango for submission to the listing Y070413TA.I love Tango music but would not be so presumptuous to be in Astor Piazolla's league or to approach true Argentinian Tango so I went for a more "pop" tango orchestra sound. I found an album on iTunes called Tango! that I used for models for the basic sound and feel. I have played Tangos at weddings, etc. over the years so am a little bit familiar. Hope this "white man's tango" is in the ballpark. http://www.johnmazzei.com/song/0Feedback appreciated,Mazz
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Post by mazz » Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:28 am

Thanks for the comments Michael. The strings are the most difficult. I did a bunch of tweaking but it's hard to tell after a while when I'm so close to it. I've been considering trying other controller schemes such as breath control but haven't gotten the tools for that yet. This will be an ongoing challenge!Mazz
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Re: Tango

Post by edteja » Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:11 pm

John,I enjoyed it very much. My observation is that it is relatively flat emotionally, especially given the title. I think it really needs some rhythmic pauses (pulls and tugs) and work on the dynamics. When I picture the dancers, I don't see the emotional changes for them to ride. But then I had all the old Cuban 78s.
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Re: Tango

Post by mazz » Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:00 pm

I was switching between 2 tracks, one with the sustains and one with stacatto notes for the short notes. Maybe the short notes stick out too much? I was using the solo violin patch with the natural vibrato for the sustained notes. I was also using the close mics for a more "small group" sound. Maybe the close mics are too harsh by themselves?As far as rhythmic pulls and tugs, maybe more stops between phrases? I do stop at the end of the A and B sections but considered doing a stop in the middle of the phrase. Maybe that would help? I wish I could hear those old 78s!Thanks for making me think!Mazz
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Re: Tango

Post by edteja » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:36 am

Yup. Stops and then a controlled surge in volume when it commences. Ba--rummp! It is the sensation of being poised momentarily on a cliff, then suddenly surging toward it, then sidestepping smoothly into a new direction. Hard to do in words. The hesitations build a delightful tension.
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