TAXI Whore

[wignelson]

Sorry if I sound ungracious to you, Cam. I was responding to a guy who says he's listened to my "stuff" and dismissed it as uninteresting.I seriously doubt that he has heard more than a few of my tunes.When someone says that to you, remember to be gracious. All I said was, rejoice, now you don't have to bother with it anymore.Wig [/quote]

[cameron]

Apr 20, 2009, 5:58am, wignelson wrote:Sorry if I sound ungracious to you, Cam. I was responding to a guy who says he's listened to my "stuff" and dismissed it as uninteresting.I seriously doubt that he has heard more than a few of my tunes.When someone says that to you, remember to be gracious. All I said was, rejoice, now you don't have to bother with it anymore.Wig [/quote]Not to worry Wig. I should have just kept my mouth shut. You're a talented guy and you'll find your niche if you haven't already. I wish you the best of success.Cam

[wignelson]

Apr 20, 2009, 7:12am, billg wrote:Hey Wig, I think that once a person understands that nothing in this biz really makes any sense things get to be easier to swallow. I've had forwards from Taxi that I couldn't place anywhere on my own. I've had returns that I've signed to what I believe may be the same company for which I was returned. I have a few songs that are making me some decent dough that were not only Taxi returns but the only place I could park them was in an online "catalog" that accepts everybody and anybody! Nobody wanted them but yet there making a little money!It's always great WHEN you know someone but you've got to make the connection somehow. I'm signed to a couple of companies that will contact me now for specific projects they think I'm "right" for but I had to make these connections by just going out on a limb and submitting to them cold. . . more than once too! and these are good companies, good reputations and plenty of good placements.Taxi has listing parties that I could ever get "in" with on my own & I know that. And even though I may not re-new I'm giving it my best shot until my membership runs out.I guess my point is that you really can't count on anything in this crazy f-ing business and you have to do everything you can if you want to make any money or get any recognition at all. Buy some music marketing books, use google, do some research. Send your music out to anyone who will listen. If someone takes it great! If not try to find out if there's something you can do to make your music acceptable to them, and remember that maybe this whole crazy trip might just really be about the journey ( I don't know if I actually believe that but it helps to repeat it sometimes!)That's good advice, Bill,I just hate the biz side of the biz. The more I biz, the less creative I feel. I wish there were a way to get an agent who would take like half the proceeds from my work. That would be fine with me. It's never been about the money for me. It's about the exposure. Putting a smile on some faces. I'd like to know more about the online catalog you mentioned. Unless, of course, they want money for you to park your songs there. But even then, I might consider it.Any direction you can steer my way will be greatly appreciated.I submitted a song for $20.00 on Broadjam for an indie film. I've never heard a word back from them and don't really expect to. There isn't a way to actually talk to a human there that I have found, so I guess I'll just chalk that up to another lesson.Heck, I give my music away to anyone who wants it. I have to draw the line at paying someone to take it. Thanks for responding. Good luck with your tunes. You're a really talented guy and deserve some good exposure for all your hard work.Wig

[wignelson]

This is a new mix of the song. Same link as the top. Piano and guitar were added. Hope you can enjoy it and get over the title.http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplaye ... 32&q=hiWig

[wignelson]

Apr 28, 2009, 9:05pm, reasondemon wrote:hi Wig,I'm not too familiar with this genre but here's what I picked up when listening to this new mix:I like the Chords U used at the Chorus parts... and I especially like the Instrumental Break very much...U have a very unusual style man.-KelThanks very much, Kel.Glad you liked the song.Wig

[geo]

Apr 19, 2009, 8:45pm, cameron wrote:Apr 19, 2009, 3:23pm, wignelson wrote:[quote author=toddt board=peer thread=13154 post=132774 time=1240181754]If you haven't found anything worth while that I have posted lately, rejoice. Now you don't have to waste any time listening to it anymore.Wig Well I may not rejoin Taxi when my membership runs out either, but I hope I'm a bit more gracious about it. Ditto, it's been a great experience, if not a successful one ...Peace, Geo

[geo]

Apr 20, 2009, 8:44am, cameron wrote:Apr 20, 2009, 5:58am, wignelson wrote:Sorry if I sound ungracious to you, Cam. I was responding to a guy who says he's listened to my "stuff" and dismissed it as uninteresting.I seriously doubt that he has heard more than a few of my tunes.When someone says that to you, remember to be gracious. All I said was, rejoice, now you don't have to bother with it anymore.Wig Not to worry Wig. I should have just kept my mouth shut. You're a talented guy and you'll find your niche if you haven't already. I wish you the best of success.Cam[/quote]I think Cam and I are sharing a brain...

[wignelson]

Apr 29, 2009, 5:56am, matthoggard wrote:Wig,Ive liked several of your tunes. I voted for you over at "the ramp" and I hope you win that title. You are obviously passionate about your songs and I respect that alot but what Ive learned in the past year of rejections and critiques is that If Im going to make it as a songwriter then I have to quit writing for myself. A great piece of advice to me recently is my new mantra."Amateur songwriters write what they want to hear."Professional songwriters write what other people want to hear."Plain and simple, it sucks but thats how it is. It has nothing to do with originality or sounding like someone, its all about having the right sounding piece of music for that exact moment in time. The a'la's are just reference points. Your a really talented writer and I think you have a great vision for music. Id say that you also have the ego to go with it. I dont mean that in a bad way, we have to have some ego to survive the scrutiny we receive. I think your ego is getting in the way of your objectivity about your songs. I have had the same problem and its taken me a year to realize that. Im sorry youre so cynical about the whole TAXI thing. Ive been there but Im also learning and getting experience I would not have gotten without joing TAXI. Youll find a place for your songs. There are dozens of Indie labels out there. Try some cold calls like BillG said. It might very well be worth your while.MattThanks for the advice, Matt. I was kind of hoping you would voice an opinion about the song or the mix.I wouldn't make a big deal about this TAXI thing that you refer to. It's not a big deal to me anymore. I was hoping TAXI would make a connection for me to be a writer. That's what I do, write songs.Now, if I were an artist, I might have more luck with TAXI. I don't plan on renewing my membership, but only because TAXI is not for me. As a writer, (not a performing artist anymore) I will just park my songs in libraries in three or four genres. The point being that I forgot that priceless advice that I was given in college 30 years ago. That is: "When someone asks you for money, run the other way."I think it's enough for the library to get half the proceeds of your work. When someone asks you for money to expose you to the library, you might want to think better about it. That's just my opinion.Alternative country is not a genre that I write in usually, I just played around with Taxi Whore to experiment. I'm sorry people can't get by the bitterness in the lyrics. Funny, when Alanis Morriset sings bitter lyrics, people don't get all bent out of shape about it. But the song does need a bridge. I may still share my work with this forum, but I share my work on a half dozen forums. I think I just won Song of the Month over at SongRamp. That's quite an honor. I'm sure I'll see you around. Good luck with your music.Wig

[crs7string]

Apr 29, 2009, 12:05pm, wignelson wrote:Apr 29, 2009, 5:56am, matthoggard wrote:Wig,Ive liked several of your tunes. I voted for you over at "the ramp" and I hope you win that title. You are obviously passionate about your songs and I respect that alot but what Ive learned in the past year of rejections and critiques is that If Im going to make it as a songwriter then I have to quit writing for myself. A great piece of advice to me recently is my new mantra."Amateur songwriters write what they want to hear."Professional songwriters write what other people want to hear."Plain and simple, it sucks but thats how it is. It has nothing to do with originality or sounding like someone, its all about having the right sounding piece of music for that exact moment in time. The a'la's are just reference points. Your a really talented writer and I think you have a great vision for music. Id say that you also have the ego to go with it. I dont mean that in a bad way, we have to have some ego to survive the scrutiny we receive. I think your ego is getting in the way of your objectivity about your songs. I have had the same problem and its taken me a year to realize that. Im sorry youre so cynical about the whole TAXI thing. Ive been there but Im also learning and getting experience I would not have gotten without joing TAXI. Youll find a place for your songs. There are dozens of Indie labels out there. Try some cold calls like BillG said. It might very well be worth your while.MattThanks for the advice, Matt. I was kind of hoping you would voice an opinion about the song or the mix.I wouldn't make a big deal about this TAXI thing that you refer to. It's not a big deal to me anymore. I was hoping TAXI would make a connection for me to be a writer. That's what I do, write songs.Now, if I were an artist, I might have more luck with TAXI. I don't plan on renewing my membership, but only because TAXI is not for me. As a writer, (not a performing artist anymore) I will just park my songs in libraries in three or four genres. The point being that I forgot that priceless advice that I was given in college 30 years ago. That is: "When someone asks you for money, run the other way."I think it's enough for the library to get half the proceeds of your work. When someone asks you for money to expose you to the library, you might want to think better about it. That's just my opinion.Alternative country is not a genre that I write in usually, I just played around with Taxi Whore to experiment. I'm sorry people can't get by the bitterness in the lyrics. Funny, when Alanis Morriset sings bitter lyrics, people don't get all bent out of shape about it. But the song does need a bridge. I may still share my work with this forum, but I share my work on a half dozen forums. I think I just won Song of the Month over at SongRamp. That's quite an honor. I'm sure I'll see you around. Good luck with your music.Wig Wig,I think you have already made it very clear on this Forum that TAXI is not a fit for you. I think it may be time to move on to a new subject. Just my opinion, but I am a little tired of your ongoing "digs" about the TAXI business model, especially in light of the fact the same model is working for me and many others on this Forum.Again, just my opinion, it's becoming a little insulting and continues to demonstrate to me that your have some studying to do about how the business really works.Chuck

[mojobone]

Divorce Lawyers? Them's fightin' words!j/k, best of luck in your future endeavors Wig; I've enjoyed hearing your music.