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Re: The Counting House

Post by wignelson » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:17 am

Oct 12, 2008, 8:39pm, wta wrote: Nice whistle track, great use of higher register. I play Burke, Susato and Syn Irish whistles from soprano E all the way down to bass C so let me know if you ever need any help... Great feel and instrumentation. Bill nailed the vox issue and I'd love to hear some high harmonies, maybe some ooooh and ahhhhh and such. Very trippy feel almost a laster Led Zep ala. ;-) wtaHere you go, William. No oohs and ahhs, but some harmony added to a few of the words. Is this any better to your ears?Thanks in advance, Wighttp://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=67764

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Re: The Counting House

Post by wta » Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:23 pm

Wow! Now that's got a great 3D feel, long, deep and wide. Nice use of panning. That tune has so much movement and yet I can still follow the focus... Brilliant, how many hours do you have into it wig if you don't mind me asking? That lead guitar was also spot on, a touch hot maybe but... I've listend to alot of traditional Irish/Celtic music and you're in the ballpark mate and the yankee accent is a unique twist. Got a 60's flavor as well. Great tune. '-) wta
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Re: The Counting House

Post by wignelson » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:35 am

Oct 15, 2008, 11:23pm, wta wrote: Wow! Now that's got a great 3D feel, long, deep and wide. Nice use of panning. That tune has so much movement and yet I can still follow the focus... Brilliant, how many hours do you have into it wig if you don't mind me asking? That lead guitar was also spot on, a touch hot maybe but... I've listend to alot of traditional Irish/Celtic music and you're in the ballpark mate and the yankee accent is a unique twist. Got a 60's flavor as well. Great tune. '-) wtaThanks, William.Hard to say how much time I have in this piece. If I had to guess, I'd say about 10 hours.The initial guitar, bass, recorder and vocals probably took about 2 to 3 hours. Then there was trying to figure out how to do medieval sounding drums that I may or may not have pulled off.The lead guitar track was added later, and all the really tasty licks are by a friend named Tony Sams who use to play lead in Bad Company. So there's actually two lead guitars. (played on the same guitar - a Washburn Woodstock)Then the vocal harmony was added and the mix was messed around with until you suggested I add more harmony.That's about it.Wig

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Re: The Counting House

Post by stephen1977 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:55 am

Excellent lyrical content. Very nice to see something steering away from the commercial norm of cliche and shallow. I really enjoyed much of the phrasing and the words you chose to use. Not common, but definitely a great trait to have within your writing ability.I agree that the vocals need brought to the forefront a bit. I could EASILY hear this is tv and film my man. Commercial? No. But that's not the aim here now is it?Definitely a dimensional piece. A lot of layers that all gel well together. I think its good man, not from a commercial standpoint, but from an artistic point of view.I dig the guitars as well man. I wish I had a little more time to comment on everything, but all in all, I am more impressed with the lyrical content than anything else, but the rest is certainly not sub par.

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Re: The Counting House

Post by wignelson » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:04 am

Oct 16, 2008, 8:55am, stephen1977 wrote:Excellent lyrical content. Very nice to see something steering away from the commercial norm of cliche and shallow. I really enjoyed much of the phrasing and the words you chose to use. Not common, but definitely a great trait to have within your writing ability.I agree that the vocals need brought to the forefront a bit. I could EASILY hear this is tv and film my man. Commercial? No. But that's not the aim here now is it?Definitely a dimensional piece. A lot of layers that all gel well together. I think its good man, not from a commercial standpoint, but from an artistic point of view.I dig the guitars as well man. I wish I had a little more time to comment on everything, but all in all, I am more impressed with the lyrical content than anything else, but the rest is certainly not sub par.Thanks, Stephen,I'm glad you could get something out of this tune. When you say the vocals could come up, it makes me think you are listening to the original link at the top.William, (wta) suggested that also and that I add some harmony so I did and posted this:http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtra ... =67764Have you listened to that one with the call and answer harmonies?Wig

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Re: The Counting House

Post by acousticeel » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:14 am

Hey man, great song. As a child of the 60's I love this kind of stuff. When I first listened, it reminded me a little of "Cry Baby Cry" from the Beatles White Album. On further listens however it reminds me more of CSNY - kind of in the vein of "Wooden Ships". There's another song they did (escapes me now) but it has that same feel. I think this would work well promoted as a 60's/acoustic/folk kind of thing. Could definitely hear it on TV or film too. To me, the only thing really missing is a memorable chorus/hook. Could you re-work the 3rd and 6th verses and make choruses out of them? Just my opinion of course but other than that it's killer. Love the guitar, lyrics, and the concept.

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Re: The Counting House

Post by cameron » Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:29 am

Oct 8, 2008, 9:44am, zoom wrote:Oct 8, 2008, 7:17am, zoom wrote:As a lyricist, I wouldn't expect you to write just about break ups and boobs. There's a lot more to life than that.As a boob who's been married a few times, I concur.Wig, I mostly agree with what Zoom says, but I know you're a big boy and that you know what you're doing. Your lyrics are very good and you're doing just fine with the narrow genre you're placing yourself in. Personally, I think you'd also do well if you chose to broaden your horizons into other genres, but if you're happy where you're at, who am I to say you're wrong?I didn't hear any of the warts you mentioned in there either. Cam

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Re: The Counting House

Post by wignelson » Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:52 am

Oct 18, 2008, 6:29am, cameron wrote:Oct 8, 2008, 9:44am, zoom wrote:As a lyricist, I wouldn't expect you to write just about break ups and boobs. There's a lot more to life than that.As a boob who's been married a few times, I concur.Wig, I mostly agree with what Zoom says, but I know you're a big boy and that you know what you're doing. Your lyrics are very good and you're doing just fine with the narrow genre you're placing yourself in. Personally, I think you'd also do well if you chose to broaden your horizons into other genres, but if you're happy where you're at, who am I to say you're wrong?I didn't hear any of the warts you mentioned in there either. CamThanks, CamThat's good advice. I do other genres aside from the medieval minstrel stuff I've been posting lately.It has been suggested recently that I do a bit of singer/songwriter.I think a minimalist approach to that might get by a screener.I also like to write classical, but the patches I use are a little sophomoric. Still, you can get the idea.Wig

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