What are you guys using for drum tracks?

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Re: What are you guys using for drum tracks?

Post by mazz » Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:21 am

Quote:Thanks Mazz....for the bargain price of about 30 bucks I purchased about 600 midi country grooves from Groove Monkey. Now these make about all the difference in the world with BFD. I had no idea these existed nor did I ever consider going this route. It was way more simple and straightforward than I thought. EZ Drummer still sounds like it might be a better solution once I upgrade my OS, but this is doing just what I need it to do for now.Quote:I haven't programmed a drum track from scratch in a long time. For me it's a waste of time when there's software like EZ drummer or Stylus out there. I don't know that much about BFD but if it uses a fairly standard drum mapping, like General MIDI, for example, you might look in to MIDI loops. You could use them to trigger BFD and save yourself a lot of headaches (and some bucks, MIDI loops are typically cheaper than audio loops). Check out Groove Monkee for starters.I'll put a big plug in for EZ drummer as well for more standard drum parts and Stylus for more atmospheric or esoteric stuff. Happy drumming!MazzGlad the grooves worked out!! I think BFD is probably comparable to EZ drummer, maybe a bit more flexible in the mixing department, I've never used it, though.I'm working on a track right now with EZ drummer and Groove Monkee loops and it's coming out just fine. Just being able to mix and match loops and then adjust the different mics to get the right sound is very nice. I've been sneaking the room mic in, trying to get the right mix of overheads and room, it's making the kit sound nice and fat. Love it!Off with the headphones for me!!!Mazz
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Re: What are you guys using for drum tracks?

Post by asiabackpacker » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:07 am

Aargh, after the initial excitement of having all these new grooves to play with in BFD, it's still not really working for me.... I just can't get any of the grooves to really fit my songs. And my songs are pretty normal. For the most part, I just need straight ahead rock beats, and most of the beats in the Groovemonkee package are just not all that straightforward. Maybe I'm even going the wrong route by trying to do my drums in Pro Tools at all. I've heard people recommend other programs for drums...like what you said, twilsbach. One of the other problems I'm having with the Groovemonkee beats is that the fills just suck...either that, or I just don't know how to use them...Do you guys have any samples of tracks with home-produced drums, so I can hear what other people's home-studio drums are sounding like, and what I can realistically strive for?Thanks!Elliott

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Re: What are you guys using for drum tracks?

Post by stick » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:22 am

Here's a few. The first was with BFD, the second was a library that came with an early version of Kontakt, I think, the last was BFD too. http://thestickhouse.com/audioexamples/ ... 20moon.mp3

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Re: What are you guys using for drum tracks?

Post by xybor » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:59 am

I program my drum tracks using a Roland Handsonic HPD-15 to trigger samples on the PC. On the PC I run NI Battery and DFH samples. To add more life to the percussion sound I also typically track a live hi-hat, sometimes a live snare, and always some other hand percussion of some sort -- tambourine, congas, bongos, etc. Terry

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Re: What are you guys using for drum tracks?

Post by stansongman » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:37 pm

I'm a ProTools user, and I use Strike. It's a piece of cake. You can print audio from all drums, including room and overheads. It's very flexible. I don't tend to do that because I use it mostly for work demos, but it's pretty good. I used to use midi sequences like "Eddie Bayer" drums, or drumtrax, but that's pretty cumbersome. I also have a buddy with a Pro Tools rig who'll record live drums to your tracks, and give you back 8 tracks of live drums. I haven't done that yet, but I think I will be in the future.

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Re: What are you guys using for drum tracks?

Post by dyak » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:40 am

Drums On Demand (for rock/pop/country songs) have been of my choice by now, though now I'm looking for other smart and easy tools too. Worth checking it at: www.drumsondemand.comReally nice support, besides.cheers, dyak

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Re: What are you guys using for drum tracks?

Post by ibanez468 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:50 am

Quote: I also figured out how to properly trigger groves through using MIDI notes.Hey Elliott!Man, I feel your frustration. But it's something you really gotta' keep workin' at. The fact that you discovered triggering the sounds from your keyboard is a good thing. That in itself may kinda' force you to do your own programming, if you don't care for the preset grooves in BFD or the GrooveMonkey beats. I almost always do my own programming just because of the control factor. And I have BFD too, and it can be a bear to work with (for me), but it does sound good though. I used to be a drummer, so that helps alot, but I had to learn how to program from scratch just like everybody else. It takes time, but it's something that I think is necessary if you're gonna' be makin' your own drum tracks. Here's a little somethin' that I programmed myself. I got the initial beats done (with no fills or anything) and then went back after the tune was all composed, re-programmed certain sections with fills, and cymbals and all of that.BTW, these drums were programmed using a Triton rack. Hope this helps & encourages you.ibanez468http://www.taximusic.com/song.php?song_id=69194&stream=true

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Re: What are you guys using for drum tracks?

Post by aimusic » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:01 am

Hey,You also might wanna look into BFD 2!!! It also comes with a standalone drum composer, very simple to use and also now they've intergrated the drag and drop system into your DAW!!!BUT it is highly recommended that BFD 2 be installed on a seperate drive because it contains 55gb of data!!!!Maybe you also wanna consider learning drums, getting an electric kit and triggering them via BFD, then you'd be actually PLAYING the drum track however you want it....Good luck

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Re: What are you guys using for drum tracks?

Post by ibanez468 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:40 am

Quote:Here's a few. The first was with BFD, the second was a library that came with an early version of Kontakt, I think, the last was BFD too.Good stuff Stick! Very convincing. Ya' got me fooled.ibanez468

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Re: What are you guys using for drum tracks?

Post by stick » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:17 pm

Quote:Quote:Here's a few. The first was with BFD, the second was a library that came with an early version of Kontakt, I think, the last was BFD too.Good stuff Stick! Very convincing. Ya' got me fooled.ibanez468Thanks!

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