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Which mp3 song file is heard if I update the file?

Post by ehm » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:58 am

If I update a song file that was submitted to an opportunity and it has not yet been reviewed by TAXI for forward or return, will the new mp3 file be the one that is heard or the original? :P

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Re: Which mp3 song file is heard if I update the file?

Post by rld » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:15 am

I believe the latest update would be the one, but since you cant be 100% sure where they are in the review process, who knows?

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Re: Which mp3 song file is heard if I update the file?

Post by mazz » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:59 am

I'm not 100% sure but I think they wait until all the submissions have been reviewed before they send out the notices to the submitters. So you can update the mp3 several times, but you won't know exactly when they are screening your piece so you won't know whether they screened the version you wanted them to or not. But IMO it's still worth updating the piece if you're working on improving it, you just won't know which version they heard unless you change it fairly soon after you first submit it. Of course, with Dispatch and the quicker turnaround, you should probably put your best shot in right out of the gate.

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Re: Which mp3 song file is heard if I update the file?

Post by Len911 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:10 pm

I sometimes change many times before the deadline date. Then I don't change for that very reason, you have no way of knowing what version they heard. I suppose if you retitled your song from "I Love You" to "I Love You ver.2", the screeners would probably type in the complete title exactly as it appeared. I've never known any of my reviews to have partial or incomplete song titles.
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Re: Which mp3 song file is heard if I update the file?

Post by mazz » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:17 pm

That's a good point, use version numbers!
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Re: Which mp3 song file is heard if I update the file?

Post by t4mh » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:34 pm

I kinda differ with yall here. TAXI assigns a number to every track regardless of the title of the track. Think about it. How many songs out there have a title like "I love ya baby". You can't keep up a database based on that string but you can keep one based on track#123456. When you submitted, I'd bet you submitted track#123456 instead of song title "I love ya baby". If you upload a new track, re-mix, whatever, I doubt the screeners will see/hear it as it gets a new track number when you upload it and that track number has not been submitted. I'll bet you can't even delete the old track (TAXI website won't let you )until the screening process for that listing is over. I don't know this for sure but if I were running the TAXI database this is more how I would do it.

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Re: Which mp3 song file is heard if I update the file?

Post by jfraizer » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:59 pm

As a test, I just uploaded a song over a previous song, I hovered my mouse over the song before and after the upload and could see that the song still had the same assigned number.

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Re: Which mp3 song file is heard if I update the file?

Post by Len911 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:47 pm

I don't know about song numbers, but my printout of an old return doesn't have a number, it has the listing number and the song title.
It is my understanding that the screeners look for the song amongst your songs listed in your profile with the title of the song that you submitted for the listing. If the other versions weren't deleted when you updated that song, it should still be listed on your profile music. If you separately uploaded version 1, 2, 3, they would all be there and I'm not sure if the screener would know which version to screen, I don't know all this for sure, but that is what it appears to be. I don't think it is like a hard drive that when you delete something the something is still there until it is actually written over, that might be useful for the FBI, but I think it would complicate matters here, and would only create a contrary purpose.

I'm not sure what the purpose would be for the editing task or why it would let you change a file if it didn't change, I actually know it does change, because recently I changed a couple with added background voices and they appeared in short time, with the background voices. I am sure there are many titles that might be the same for songs, hopefully not under the same person's profile and I might add that I always have had my name on the returns. Maybe the numbers are there to count how many songs there are, not counting remixes, I don't have a clue,lol! And Keith, no offense, but I am glad you aren't in charge of the data base presently, I have a hard time as it is,lol!
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Re: Which mp3 song file is heard if I update the file?

Post by t4mh » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:32 pm

Len911 wrote: And Keith, no offense, but I am glad you aren't in charge of the data base presently, I have a hard time as it is,lol!
None taken! Its just that in my mind at least, the screening process should be as level a playing field as possible. To me the screener should not know who submitted the track ( might be a friendship or hateship there ) or the song name ( maybe the screener has heard it before and has a preconceived idea ). So user account number X="John Doe" submitted song number Y="I love ya baby" for listing number Z... Then you get back a forward or return notice that says "Hi John Doe, your song, I love ya baby, was forwarded/returned for listing such n such". If there was a critique it gets included. The rest could be all database driven and you just don't ever see it. Frankly, I have no idea if this is in fact the case with TAXI. Just a conversational idea about how to do it...

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Re: Which mp3 song file is heard if I update the file?

Post by Casey H » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:56 pm

My understanding is you can update it as many times as you want BEFORE the deadline and you can be sure the latest one will be heard. They don't start reviewing until the after the deadline. AFTER the deadline, you can't be sure because they started the review process and you don't know when they did your review. It could have been an hour after deadline or 3 weeks after.

Of course, if you have an improved version, as mazz said, it's still worth updating on the chance that the newer one will be heard. Nothing to lose.

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