Anything less than 6 in a critique?

[jchitty]

Quote:Quote:Having said all that I said at the time,(another critique you missed!) that I liked it and I still do. Quote:Steve, you critique whore!! hee hee call me an opinion gathering slut, i'm not a critque whore at all. it seems you all are more interested in the fact that I might have not listed your names as having listened to the the song, instead of the fact i 'm feeling like i got kicked squarely in the cajones. Oh well. I love you all, but it's my party, and i'll cry if i want to...btw, Jeffe also listened and gave us a few suggestions that also have merit.so i guess, back to the drawing board.I'll let you know when it gets updated.and thanks for listening, and especially if I've forgotten anyone else.Steve my friend, with all due respect, I have to disagree with you here. I think JD's onto something when he said that each time someone gives you a critique, you should at least acknowledge them. For one, it takes a long time to type and think about thoughtful critiques. In my case, it takes even longer because I'm working with a very slow computer on dial-up, and using plug in speakers with very low volume to hear people's stuff....so believe me, if I'm critiquing for someone, it's a labor of love. I'm sorry you feel bad because you scored low on your song, but remember, we already gave you lots of support by giving you our time to critique your song. I replied to each and every thread when it came to my thread on "Old Lem Jones" last week when people critiqued my song.....but there was a reason for that....people took the time to give me their thoughts whether good or bad. I hate to clog up the board with posts sometimes, but in that case, people gave me their valuable time as I say. When I did reply to that thread about "Old Lem Jones" it took me about an hour to type replies back replys, and I was tired from going on a trip, but I did it anyway. I don't always reply to each thread when it comes to other topics...mainly because that can get annoying, but when it comes to critiques, I think it's important to at least acknowledge everyone even if you only mention their name.And here's another thing....you might want us to feel your pain, but I told you in my critique that I thought your song was really great....I saw it more as an alt-country song not a commercial country one, but still a very good song. So, I've already given you my support. One screener's comments do not a total downer make.....there are people out here who like your song and think it's really good....I for one am one of those people.If you read my earlier post on this thread,you'd also realize that I got a really bad critique too, but I think it ended up being a subjective thingy.....I got another critique on the same song that was a lot better. So resubmit, and maybe you'll feel better. And give your chatmates who support you more understanding.Chits

[jchitty]

Lord, 'replies.' Hehehe.

[Casey H]

Monday at 1PM EST, there will be mandatory training for all forum members on:(1) Practicing Safe Critique-ing: Every time you critique with someone, you are critique-ing with everyone that person has ever critiqued... Where to get confidential testing...(2) Critique Harassment: Understanding the definition of Critique Harrasment... What to do if you think you are being harrassed... Your legal rights... Attendance is MANDATORY...The Management

[jchitty]

Quote:Monday at 1PM EST, there will be mandatory training for all forum members on:(1) Practicing Safe Critique-ing: Every time you critique with someone, you are critique-ing with everyone that person has ever critiqued... Where to get confidential testing...(2) Critique Harassment: Understanding the definition of Critique Harrasment... What to do if you think you are being harrassed... Your legal rights... Attendance is MANDATORY...The ManagementHaha! I'm too easy....maybe I should get rid of that sign which says, "Will Critique For Food."

[Casey H]

Quote: Haha! I'm too easy....maybe I should get rid of that sign which says, "Will Critique For Food."Didn't you mean "WILL CRITIQUE FOR CREDIT" ? cAsEy

[jchitty]

Quote:Quote: Haha! I'm too easy....maybe I should get rid of that sign which says, "Will Critique For Food."Didn't you mean "WILL CRITIQUE FOR CREDIT" ? cAsEyYeah, but not only credit...from now on, I'm charging by the hour.....30 bucks here we come, wheeeh.....Anyway, you folks have a good day.

[Casey H]

Quote: Yeah, but not only credit...from now on, I'm charging by the hour.....30 bucks here we come, heeeh.. I'll do it for $25... Capitalism at its best...

[arkjack]

Just looked through some of my returns.... I see fives quite a bit on marketability, and have even gotten threes and fours on some that were submissions for superstar hi bar listings..... YuckArkJack

[johnnydean1]

Quote:Quote:Yo SteveWhat am I, chopped liver here? LOL!!Don't you recall MY feedback that it needed more rockin' energy to go with those donuts in the parking lot?? I sent you some Dave Edmunds and Bruce Springsteen songs as examples of the type of energy I thought it needed. Caseyjust to respond to this Casey,YOU told me directly that you don't know anything about country music, so I also thought you meant for me not, to use your suggestions. "Donuts in the parking lot," can only be a country song lyric, at least from my perspective. So Springsteen energy didn't actually seem appropriate to me. You didn't actually say anything about this, when you first listened. It's valid, and it is what I was afraid of, as well. I'm glad I found out the hard way. So thanks again JD. It looks like you and the screener are saying the same thing. I was thinking that an amusing take on donuts, would be better supported by tongue in cheek, rather than a slamming track. But I have been wrong, so many times in my life... thx Andre I'm not sure we're friends yet, chits. Acquaintances yes. Competitors even. I had to remind Casey once that we're not yet friends. But I have grown to look forward to meeting him. We have become phone friends, and certainly email pals. Casey's fed me a lot of great stuff i needed to learn, already. I don't think JD's ever said this to me, but I could be wrong. Chits, I know this, I also spend the time listening and offering suggestions to lots of music here.thank you for your labor of love I don't actually feel that bad. I simply offered up my own experience of getting a lousy mark on something I worked hard at. My post was only meant to offer my own experience of getting less than a 6, from a screener. triviul, asked a valid question, so I gave him my best pertinent example. I think the discussion was fruitful, even in a way I never expected. It seems to me chits, that you and i shared a few long PM's about the song, and I'm sure you could tell at the time that i was paying very close attention to what you had to say. I also did my best to be gracious, and thank you for your time. Are you suggesting I should thank you and everyone else for listening, and continually keep doing so if the song ever comes up in conversation again? Yes I'm Canadian, but that seems a little over-the-top NICE, even for a Canadian. Nope, I don't want or need anyone to feel my pain. I was happy you liked the song in the first place. Still am happy about it. You think it's alt-country, and you may well be right. I simply posted the review for triviul's sake, to point out a less than 6 score. I'm glad many of you like the song, but if a screener thought the melody sucked, then I'll be paying a lot of attention to that. Sure, I felt lousy about his remarks, but I posted the whole review because I am learning from it. Quote:If you read my earlier post on this thread,you'd also realize that I got a really bad critique too, but I think it ended up being a subjective thingy.....I got another critique on the same song that was a lot better. So resubmit, and maybe you'll feel better. And give your chatmates who support you more understanding.Bummer about your critique as well. What does your earlier post on the thread have to do with me needing to give my chatmates more understanding? Did I miss something? I came home late after a gig and read a bunch of posts that seemed to be more about clogging the boards with really long, unneccessary, quotes of my own post. (no I never do this at all, no not me ) So I made what I thought was a joke about some of you being more interested in seeing your names adding to a thread, than actually contributing to what the thread was about. My sense of humour, has once again shown me how different I am. I'm OK with it, actually. It seemed like fun entertainment, at my expense. So I decided to throw the gauntlet back, just to show you I'm game. Looks like it worked. And I've now done it again. And I'll be glad to attend all of Casey's forum training classes. Can I bring some friends?Steve Steve,let's get something straight!You are an extremely talented,Songwriter,Musician,Technician and one of the funnest guys on any board anywhere.Your work is of the highest calibre and world class.You are generous with your time and expertise and we all luv ya.Well I do and jaffa cakes does so that's all you need.

[jeffe]

Well said Johnny.Yep Steve. You are the smashing orangey bit