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Re: Broadjam Problems

Post by johnnydean1 » Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:33 pm

Quote:Quote:There are some very intuitive members on this forum. I am still paying attention however, and I'm glad to see the honest feedback.Steve, you have every right to ask the questions that you are asking and to the tone with which you are asking them. I will make sure that customer service contacts you tomorrow regarding your receipt and any other questions you might have. MattAnd thank you broadjammatt. Somehow I knew and expected you'd respond this way(not condeming me for ranting). This is the place any kind of all-out war your companies become involved in, will flourish, and be detrimental to both companies. I look forward to a very clear understanding of the options Broadjam is about to make available. JD is smarter than the average bear. Me, I'd never pretend to be intuitive.steveThere is nothing wrong with your intuition Steve or Logic We will end up with a dilution of both companies and a lesser service as a result.

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Post by sgs4u » Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:27 pm

Quote:We will end up with a dilution of both companies and a lesser service as a result.JD, this is exactly my fear. Are we going to be submitting music to 2 different companies, both going after the same contracts, themselves? What happens when the same piece of your music ends up on someone's desk, from both Taxi and Broadjam? This is not a massive pond we're all swimming in here. It's already crowded with lots of fish. I've had a few companies email me to see if I'd like to spend money on their service. Why would I increase my spending? I haven't made a dime yet, and there's really no telling if I ever will, through this 2nd best way to sell my music. I have ample faith and love for what I create, but my inability to sell my music and/or talent is one of the reasons I joined Taxi in the first place. The other 2 reasons were to find out if my sh!te stinks or not to others, and my impression of TAXI, is that it's most legit and biggest outfit of its kind. I even convinced another songwriter who was paying me $$, to join Taxi, before I did. Because I thought it was the right way for him to learn what companies are actually looking for. We can all believe there are lots of companies and artists and films looking for music. But I would be surprised if there are enough placement opportunities to warrant both taxi and broadjam going after the same buyers and sellers. Who is going to tell us that they're not? I'm surprised there isn't more discussion going on here about it, especially from you guys that have been around the block. I've had lots of conversations with people on Broadjam(who produce really great music) and won't join taxi again. Of course I ask them why. Myself, I am more hopeful that the music I do (and the personality I have) will lead me where I need to go.Now if my "tone," is bothersome or suspect, and you think I ought to shut up about this or find nicer ways to express myelf, ask yourself why. I'm sure there are lots of people waiting to see how this all plays out.I've been rattling around ways that this division can be good for us, at the bottom of the food chain. I'm ready to listen to how this can be beneficial for both taxi and broadjam customers.the only thing I have come up with right now is:dividing "X" by 2 = 1/2 of X. Whether it's the number of placement opportunities available, or the cash that gets paid to you - whenever there is MORE competition for music, the music providers end up making LESS. So are the Broadjam guys finding different sources to earn you money? It's a good question to ask. Maybe I'll get thrown out of both Taxi and Broadjam for stating the obvious. steve

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Post by sgs4u » Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:53 pm

Quote:Steve's post had a tone, implying that Broadjam was shady because he didn't get a receipt. I reacted to that. C'mon, if a person doesn't get a receipt, they contact they company and ask what happened. CaseyYes it had a tone, and your response had a "sweep it under the carpet" tone. But I'm not bothered by people's tone that much. I know you're a really good guy Casey.A couple pf months ago, Taxi deleted a few things because they were about competing services. I'm just really surprised that broadjammatt is here, when these 2 companies are parting ways. AND you must have noticed, I don't even need to email customer service at Broadjam, because those nice folks are respondong to posts left here. So yeah, I don't understand what's going on, and it does seem FISHY to me. I'm not at all saying I believe anything in particular is happening. I simply don't understand how this is going to work.Then it occurred to me after reading JD's snarky tone post, that he solicited a response. Then I happened upon a few of the Don's writings, and they also have a tone to them. So as far as I'm concerned, TURN UP THE TONE. Let's see what happens. AND it's entertaining.steve

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Post by jeffe » Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:45 pm

There is another possibility.A buyout.
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Re: Broadjam Problems

Post by Casey H » Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:38 am

Quote:There is another possibility.A buyout.I categorically deny that Steve Gilbert and I have formed a consortium to buy out TAXI and form a new company called "LIMO".

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Post by jeffe » Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:46 am

Quote:Quote:There is another possibility.A buyout.I categorically deny that Steve Gilbert and I have formed a consortium to buy out TAXI and form a new company called "LIMO". Sometimes when these things happen, a company doesn't like to be completely swallowed up, so they include a reference to the existing company. Such as "Packard bell".So when's the "Limojam" website going to be up?
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Post by edteja » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:31 am

Isn't that Broadlimojambids? I heard it was a larger consortium.
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Post by broadjammatt » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:57 am

Quote:A couple pf months ago, Taxi deleted a few things because they were about competing services. I'm just really surprised that broadjammatt is here, when these 2 companies are parting ways. AND you must have noticed, I don't even need to email customer service at Broadjam, because those nice folks are respondong to posts left here. As you note, I may indeed disappear in the middle of the night. I would never leave customer service questions that I read here unanswered if possible, but I'd like to remind everyone that this is not the ideal way to contact Broadjam customer service. Matt[Added: I guess I should mention the best way, which is to email or call. ]

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Post by matto » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:38 am

Quote:Quote:We will end up with a dilution of both companies and a lesser service as a result.JD, this is exactly my fear. As far as Taxi's service, I wouldn't worry at all. A lot of "Taxi-like" services have come and gone over the years, and Taxi's service or reputation has not suffered as a result of their coming and going. Instead, Taxi has given us more and more for our membership dollar over the years, and this new hosting venture is just the latest example of this.Quote:Are we going to be submitting music to 2 different companies, both going after the same contracts, themselves? What happens when the same piece of your music ends up on someone's desk, from both Taxi and Broadjam? IF that were to happen, I can't see there being any problem in it. Companies get the same music from different sources all the time. It's only a potential problem if more than one source claims to represent or own your music and have the right to negotiate on your behalf. Taxi doesn't do that obviously.Quote:We can all believe there are lots of companies and artists and films looking for music. But I would be surprised if there are enough placement opportunities to warrant both taxi and broadjam going after the same buyers and sellers. Who is going to tell us that they're not? I'm surprised there isn't more discussion going on here about it, especially from you guys that have been around the block. [quote]As I said...other outfits have come and gone. Taxi has built a reputation with the companies they work with. That reputation is built largely on that fact that they have experts, whose ears those companies trust, screen your music. [quote]Myself, I am more hopeful that the music I do (and the personality I have) will lead me where I need to go.When contemplating whether to join any service that offers to help you sell your music, obviously you'd want to check their track record in helping other people who are in a situation similar to yours. Quote:the only thing I have come up with right now is:dividing "X" by 2 = 1/2 of X. Whether it's the number of placement opportunities available, or the cash that gets paid to you - whenever there is MORE competition for music, the music providers end up making LESS. This doesn't make any sense to me Steve. As I stated before if two companies have the right to negotiate license fees on your behalf, that could work to your disadvantage, but that's not the case here (at least not as far as Taxi is concerned); if they are simply getting your music "out there", that just gives you more exposure. The question is simply, which, and how many, of these types of services it's worth investing money in. And to me, that comes down to a service's ability to get your music to the right people, AND to get those people to listen to it...and that's down to reputation and relationships. Beyond that, it comes down to what other services that company provides that would be helpful to you.matto

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Re: Broadjam Problems

Post by sgs4u » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:38 am

Quote:I categorically deny that Steve Gilbert and I have formed a consortium to buy out TAXI and form a new company called "LIMO". now that IS very funny Casey! Even my horoscope said, today, I should ask the question I've been to afraid to ask.steve

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