Country Music Listing Confusion....?!

[jchitty]

Quote:Wow, y'all are good for a lot of LOLs around here, but it's easy pickings. I can rile up a ton of folks just goofing off. It's not much of a challenge.As far as the "JJJ" rhymes with "KKK" b.s., just because someone has pride in their heritage they must be a racist, right? I think not.Apparently you all are not familiar with history, because the American Civil War was fought over the issue of States' rights, not the issue of slavery. The point of secession was that the Federal government does not have the right to dictate to any single State, or group of States, what their independent laws should be on any issue not addressed by the Constitution.This is supposed to be a representative republic, but a lot of misinformed people think it's a democracy. States have the individual right to determine their own legalities based on what the voters of their State decide. A little cited but very relevant part of the bill of rights, the tenth amendment, says "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."This means the Federal government cannot dictate to any State what its laws may or may not be unless it's expressly spelled out in the Constitution itself. That is why there was a Confederacy, because the Federal government violated this amendment, as they do now blatantly and with impunity.Anyway, back to the LOLs at hand, I started to write one y'all will really like, inspired by this forum itself...HEY NASHVILLEIntro (also chorus)Hey Nashville, that's not countryThat's a Canadian who's faking a drawlYou've got New York boys playing lite rock noiseI don't think I want to hear it at allYou've got a bleach blonde bimbo from HollywoodWho moved to Nashville to be a starHey Nashville, that's not countryWe ain't as dumb as you think we areV.I was driving down around about NashvilleAnd I was listening to the radioMust have turned the dial for a country mileBut I couldn't find a song I knowAnd some guy on there, hell I do declareHe was mixing up country with rapSo I thought up a name for this new kind of musicAnd I think I'm going to call it crapC.Hey Nashville, that's not countryThat's a Canadian who's faking a drawlYou've got New York boys playing lite rock noiseI don't think I want to hear it at allYou've got a bleach blonde waitress from HollywoodWho moved to Nashville to be a starHey Nashville, that's not countryWe ain't as dumb as you think we areV.Now, whatever happened to old George JonesOr a Jerry Reed trucking songCharley Pride singin' Kaw-LigaIt's been going on for so damn longYou can sell it in Europe, you can sell it in ChinaYou can sell it for a marketing goalYou can sell out the body of countryBut you're never going to sell its soulC.Hey Nashville, that's not countryThat's a Canadian who's faking a drawlYou've got New York boys playing lite rock noiseI don't think I want to hear it at allYou've got a bleach blonde bimbo from HollywoodWho moved to Nashville to be a starHey Nashville, that's not countryWe ain't as dumb as you think we areThere you go. My point exactly. I'll post a numbers chart if requested so you can play it at home for your friends and family. I may even record it.BTW, note the Charley Pride reference, accusers! Cowboy Troy sucks not because he's Black, but simply because he sucks!Thanks for the 'interpretist' history lesson, but really, what does this all have to do with the original topic at hand which was 'country music listing confusion????"

[bc]

Jim, YOU brought up the civil war to make your point...which was??Anywho, country music and rap have much in common. Heck the first rap songs I ever heard where by George Jones, Conway Twitty, etc... think about it. Ever heard Big Joe and Phantom 309 ? Syncopate the spoken word and it's all rap if you ask me. But hey, I'm just tractor trash from a hick town. (Tractor Trash? Hmmm? There's a song in there...)You have a semi legit issue as far as semantic debates go. Heck, I've had reviewers make comments that revealed their unfamiliarity with rural-isms, but...they still know what constitutes a commercially viable product, form wise and grammatically. There is much to learn from their technical songwriting/reviewing chops. And remember, Hank Williams Sr. was a pariah to the supposed "country elite" of Nashville when he first appeared. Jim, you're prolly a cool dude. Shoot me your phone number and we can meet at Starbucks next time I hit town. I mean it. Finally, don't EVER put your venison fillet mignon in your stew if you want to hang with real country folks. Man, thats' sumptin' cowboy Troy would do! You readin' this ol' 194 ? best,bc

[clonsberry]

Quote:She probably doesn't know who Sid Vicious was either.Ooh.. he sounds scary. Is he in that movie with Johnny Depp?

[jchitty]

Quote:"Chits",This has to do with "Country music listing confusion" because if you submit a song to a listing that asks for Country, it always gets rejected because it's Country, and that's not what they want. Anymore, when they say "Country", they want lite rock with steel guitar on it, plus a reference to "sippy cups" or runs in pantyhose, or some other such nonsense."Country" today is a code word for "adult contemporary", and if anyone has any real Country songs out there, they are now classifying that as all sorts of things, like "Americana", "Alt Country", etc... so pitch it that way. "Country" right now apparently means that band "Rascall F@gs", or something...What does "when I get pissed at my low-paying yet college degree requiring office job I remember my vegetable garden then think I'm a hillbilly when I'm actually ashamed of my heritage because I'm afraid of what other people think" have to do with the topic at hand, either?...BTW, it's "revisionist", not "interpretist". The true revisionists are the ones who write the history, the victors...Also, Steve, Avril Lavigne is not punk. Ask a punk. She said "who?" about Joe Strummer because she doesn't know who he was. She probably doesn't know who Sid Vicious was either. Not that I really like that type of music, anyway, but I apparently know more about it than Avril Lavigne, who claims to be playing it. I hate posers in any genre...Nah, I used the word 'interpretist' on purpose....I think it fits you much better than revisionist.BTW, you may be a good person as BC says, but you act like you've got a monopoly on all things Southern, and all you're doing is more damage to country music than Nashville record execs ever could. I'm starting to think you're fake too....no one is this over the top about being a Southerner.

[rcase]

J-Nash,I'd just like to say I really like a lot of the lines in your Hey Nashville lyric. I think it's some entertaining, clever stuff. And I would bet there's more than a few people out there who could identify with its spirit. A minor point of criticism if I may: the 'marketing goal' line seemed to jump out at me as not belonging with the rest of it; it felt a bit clumsy. I definitely understand the meaning, and I think that meaning is relevant, but I would suggest maybe finding another way to say it, so that line would flow as nicely as most of the others do. Just an opinion.Some background info on me, as I think it kinda relates here.. I'm a Michigan native who lived outside of Nash (in Murfreesboro) for four years. I worked in downtown Nash during that time, attended NSAI things, etc. Quite honestly, I probably write a lot of the type of music I'm assuming you dislike (pop-country...or Corn Pop, as matto said somewhere ). But then I should really re-read this thread..maybe you don't dislike it, you just object to it being promoted as Country. I used to joke with my family/friends that I was going to Nashville to do what I could to hurry the "watering-down" of real Country music. I was (and am) just joking btw.. I love all kinds of stuff, and I think there's a place for all of it. True, I prefer 'Heads Carolina Tails California' to the stuff referenced in your lyric, but then again, I've always thought Jones' 'He Stopped Loving Her Today' is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard.Anyhoo, I enjoyed the lyric. Rob

[hummingbird]

Quote:Can you talk to more people about not letting Canadians sing w a drawl, please. and here I was working on my Draaawwl, ya'llcause They Say I don't Sound country

[jchitty]

Quote:J-Nash,I'd just like to say I really like a lot of the lines in your Hey Nashville lyric. I think it's some entertaining, clever stuff. And I would bet there's more than a few people out there who could identify with its spirit. A minor point of criticism if I may: the 'marketing goal' line seemed to jump out at me as not belonging with the rest of it; it felt a bit clumsy. I definitely understand the meaning, and I think that meaning is relevant, but I would suggest maybe finding another way to say it, so that line would flow as nicely as most of the others do. Just an opinion.Some background info on me, as I think it kinda relates here.. I'm a Michigan native who lived outside of Nash (in Murfreesboro) for four years. I worked in downtown Nash during that time, attended NSAI things, etc. Quite honestly, I probably write a lot of the type of music I'm assuming you dislike (pop-country...or Corn Pop, as matto said somewhere ). But then I should really re-read this thread..maybe you don't dislike it, you just object to it being promoted as Country. I used to joke with my family/friends that I was going to Nashville to do what I could to hurry the "watering-down" of real Country music. I was (and am) just joking btw.. I love all kinds of stuff, and I think there's a place for all of it. True, I prefer 'Heads Carolina Tails California' to the stuff referenced in your lyric, but then again, I've always thought Jones' 'He Stopped Loving Her Today' is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard.Anyhoo, I enjoyed the lyric. Rob"He Stopped Loving Her Today"......one of the best (if not THE best) country songs ever written. I heard George didn't want to record it when he first heard it....he thought it was too sad......glad he changed his mind.

[sgs4u]

Quote:"He Stopped Loving Her Today"......one of the best (if not THE best) country songs ever written. I heard George didn't want to record it when he first heard it....he thought it was too sad......glad he changed his mind. I just saw this. It's a great country song you might all enjoy, called 18 Video Tapeshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaGmeFhqEpk

[jchitty]

Quote:Quote:"He Stopped Loving Her Today"......one of the best (if not THE best) country songs ever written. I heard George didn't want to record it when he first heard it....he thought it was too sad......glad he changed his mind. I just saw this. It's a great country song you might all enjoy, called 18 Video Tapeshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaGmeFhqEpkThanks for that, Bubba. It was beautiful....and a three hanky song, I'd say.

[ddusty]

Quote:The ultimate country rap song: Commander Cody, 'Hot Rod Lincoln' no drawl. ;-)ouch. bc, to me that is as bad as putting the good stakes in the stew..... I'm sure you meant to say Charlie Ryan's "Hot Rod Lincoln"sure CC made it famous, but he didn't write it... Rob