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Re: Cubase LE mixdown problem

Post by ibanez468 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:43 pm

Hey Case!Here's a link that may answer your question. Some pretty good reasons as to why this is done. Hope this is informative.http://www.pcmus.com/hardrive.htmI-468PS -- And like you said, you're not recording 16 or 24 or 32 tracks, so it may not affect you as much, but there are still other reasons why you might want to do this.

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Re: Cubase LE mixdown problem

Post by Casey H » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:38 pm

Thanks all for the info. I'm doing some testing with tweaks to XP performance and I will look into the drive thing.However, the problem may be way more basic. For some reason, I thought I had 2 GB of RAM but I have 1 GB. That used to be a lot but nowadays for audio work it could be pretty light. Maybe I can up that to 4 GB... Casey

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Re: Cubase LE mixdown problem

Post by Casey H » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:04 am

Hey... Regarding the excellent advice to make sure my audio files were not on the same drive as my OS... I was having trouble understanding the "why" even though it's obviously correct. So I did some geek-research to, at least, get it in terms that I understood. This may have been obvious to many of you-- I may have been a bit thick-headed here.When you are running your OS, your hard drive head is moving around that drive all the time accessing needed OS files. So if you are writing large data files (such as audio) at the same time, the hard drive is bouncing around, switching between accessing OS files and data files. Since hard drives involve mechanical movement, even though the heads move pretty fast, it's not anywhere near "fast" compared to pure electronics. So a lot of time is lost moving the hard drive's head around. If you have a separate drive, the same hard drive head isn't trying to do both.So, thank you all. I'm going to put in another drive and upgrade my RAM to at least 3 GB. Apparently, even though you can put in 4 GB on many machines, Windows XP (32 bit) really can only give you use of around 3 GB. Casey

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Re: Cubase LE mixdown problem

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Oct 17, 2008, 7:04am, hurowitz wrote:...When you are running your OS, your hard drive head is moving around that drive all the time accessing needed OS files. So if you are writing large data files (such as audio) at the same time, the hard drive is bouncing around, switching between accessing OS files and data files. Since hard drives involve mechanical movement, even though the heads move pretty fast, it's not anywhere near "fast" compared to pure electronics. So a lot of time is lost moving the hard drive's head around. If you have a separate drive, the same hard drive head isn't trying to do both.... CaseySometimes it's better when you discover these things for yourself...even though I told you why this is better in #2 above.Here is a link to the most straight forward XP Optimization tweaks :www.musicxp.netDon't worry about what it will do to your other applications. The tweaks have not affected my machine or any other machine that I've set-up.

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Re: Cubase LE mixdown problem

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Oct 17, 2008, 7:04am, hurowitz wrote:Hey... Regarding the excellent advice to make sure my audio files were not on the same drive as my OS... I was having trouble understanding the "why" even though it's obviously correct. So I did some geek-research to, at least, get it in terms that I understood. This may have been obvious to many of you-- I may have been a bit thick-headed here.When you are running your OS, your hard drive head is moving around that drive all the time accessing needed OS files. So if you are writing large data files (such as audio) at the same time, the hard drive is bouncing around, switching between accessing OS files and data files. Since hard drives involve mechanical movement, even though the heads move pretty fast, it's not anywhere near "fast" compared to pure electronics. So a lot of time is lost moving the hard drive's head around. If you have a separate drive, the same hard drive head isn't trying to do both.So, thank you all. I'm going to put in another drive and upgrade my RAM to at least 3 GB. Apparently, even though you can put in 4 GB on many machines, Windows XP (32 bit) really can only give you use of around 3 GB. Caseysounds like a plan, Casey! Good advice from everyone
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Re: Cubase LE mixdown problem

Post by Casey H » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:40 am

Oct 17, 2008, 8:16am, eightyeightkeys wrote:Oct 17, 2008, 7:04am, hurowitz wrote:...When you are running your OS, your hard drive head is moving around that drive all the time accessing needed OS files. So if you are writing large data files (such as audio) at the same time, the hard drive is bouncing around, switching between accessing OS files and data files. Since hard drives involve mechanical movement, even though the heads move pretty fast, it's not anywhere near "fast" compared to pure electronics. So a lot of time is lost moving the hard drive's head around. If you have a separate drive, the same hard drive head isn't trying to do both.... CaseySometimes it's better when you discover these things for yourself...even though I told you why this is better in #2 above.Here is a link to the most straight forward XP Optimization tweaks :www.musicxp.netDon't worry about what it will do to your other applications. The tweaks have not affected my machine or any other machine that I've set-up.Hey 88You did tell me... I was being thick headed... Thanks!! Casey

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Re: Cubase LE mixdown problem

Post by devin » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:45 am

Having just music on one drive also has an extra benefit. A local studio to me was at one of the "boot camps" for gear, and they received this advice:If you do a backup to an external drive, it writes the music to the new drive in an orderly fashion, nice and neat.Instead of defragging the internal drive, just write a copy back from your backup drive. This makes a nice copy to work with. Seeing as a good number of files aren't going to be accessed, they don't get moved around during defrag, or don't get in the way when tracking.I don't know how accurate this advice is (I tried looking into my hard drives, but I couldn't see if all the songs were arranged in nice little concentric circles...)
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Re: Cubase LE mixdown problem

Post by Casey H » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:57 am

Oct 17, 2008, 9:45am, devin wrote:I don't know how accurate this advice is (I tried looking into my hard drives, but I couldn't see if all the songs were arranged in nice little concentric circles...)That's 'cos you weren't wearing the special 3D glasses.

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Re: Cubase LE mixdown problem

Post by guscave » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:44 am

Hey Casey,Check out this forum:http://www.cubase.net/phpbb2/index.phpI use to spend a lot of time in there when I first got Cubase. They helped me a lot in fixing those little annoying bugs...

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Re: Cubase LE mixdown problem

Post by wta » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:50 am

Casey, I us Cubase SE and this same thing as happen recently as well. Only a couple of times but it was weird that all of a sudden I was having this issue. I'm running XP and have a 3.0 ghz P4 and I have only one drive as well but I've never had this problem till about 2 weeks ago. Now it happened about 3 or 4 times and now things are back to normal is seems... This is an update issue me thinks... '-) wta
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