EZDrummer problem: "Drummer" vs. "Audience" perspective

[MattCurious]

Ah - see your point after the orchestral feedback. With a rock/metal gig, though, I've only ever been able to distinguish where the kit as a whole is rather than what side the different elements are on. The kit is all squashed together in comparison to an orchestra, where you really can hear that one group of instruments is over HERE as opposed to over THERE. I think you can probably get away with it for your genre. I pan hi hats all over the place and people are yet to make a particular point of it.

Good luck!

[Len911]

... it's the Ambience mic that is causing the "problem". I switched to Audience perspective, which puts the hat on the right...Ambience still has the hat mostly on the left. The overheads swapped just fine, meaning, yes, there is "smear" in the Overheads, but nowhere near like there is on the Ambience mic. With the Overheads, it sounded like they 'switched" panning. But even when i manually switched the stereo panning of the Ambience mic, it still had the hat mostly on the left...I don't get it.

Mike

... Whether it's real ambience or a reverb, the stereo or stereo separation from both channels will be affected

It's probably how they program the reverb. I have the Oxford reverb that has a stereo separation slider, if I adjust it to 100% stereo separation, in theory,lol, there's no reverb being applied. Theoretically a "realistic" reverb could be programmed but it would take a supercomputer to process, metaphorically it is akin to digital sampling, 44.1 khz- 192khz or more, more real, but there's a threshold of being able to hear the difference.

Because ambience/reverb principally bounces or reflects the sound "seemingly randomly" about both channels of stereo, panning an instrument after the reverb is like trying to place something left or right that already occupies the full stereo spectrum. The dry tone will have more gain than the reverb and reverb tails, but the remnants will still be there.

[Russell Landwehr]

Ah - see your point after the orchestral feedback. With a rock/metal gig, though, I've only ever been able to distinguish where the kit as a whole is rather than what side the different elements are on. The kit is all squashed together in comparison to an orchestra, where you really can hear that one group of instruments is over HERE as opposed to over THERE.

Yes, I agree... I was just thinking that the audience's "perspective" is that the drums are coming from "that" part of the stage... when i'm doing a mix with drums, unless I'm purposefully going for something electronic and/or whacked out, my Kick, Snare and HH are all panned center.

Russell

[Len911]

"audience perspective" What happens when a piano is turned sideways on the stage and the pa mics aren't well, left and right to the audience anymore?