Holy Crap!!!

[aimusic]

you guys are not getting what I'm saying, I'm only going down the negative path because Steve had those patronising comments at me... I really don't see how people would complain about multi-track recording...I think on a professional level, this is brilliant but all I can see is a huge amount of beginners using it to make their average/crappy bands sound great online/cd etc and when you turn up to their gigs its choas.

[sgs4u]

If I was patronizing, I didn't see it. I simply disagree with you. Perhaps you have a fear that those average/crappy bands (certainly not my term), are going to get placements and you are not? hehe...There's ample enough to go around, and no end of opportunities in site.Has anyone noticed how many more Taxi opps there are this year compared to last year?

[johnnydean1]

Much ado about nothing to quote SG's dad. If the best. this piece of software can do is move few notes of a chord around I don't think the real musicians on here (Steve in particular) have anything to worry about.The only crap was the sound of the acoustic guitar in the sample.

[aimusic]

I don't fear that... if someone's material is more suitable for a listing than mine is - they deserve it... I'm not talking about listings, I'm talking about going to gigs... sometimes people like to discover new bands on myspace etc... and you might think this band kicks ass, then you go to one of their gigs and they suck... That's what I'm talking about...This kind of software is amazing for studio work and to fine tune songs (that have a lot of hard work go into them).I mean Auto-Tune started people hearing singers that sounded great on cd but weren't that great live ala Gwen Stefani, now with this it just means that musicians can accept their bad performances because they can tweak absolutely everything in the studio.

[johnnydean1]

Quote:I don't fear that... if someone's material is more suitable for a listing than mine is - they deserve it... I'm not talking about listings, I'm talking about going to gigs... sometimes people like to discover new bands on myspace etc... and you might think this band kicks ass, then you go to one of their gigs and they suck... That's what I'm talking about...This kind of software is amazing for studio work and to fine tune songs (that have a lot of hard work go into them).I mean Auto-Tune started people hearing singers that sounded great on cd but weren't that great live ala Gwen Stefani, now with this it just means that musicians can accept their bad performances because they can tweak absolutely everything in the studio.Sounds to me you have been to more gigs than you have played so you don't really know what you are talking about.

[aimusic]

You do not know me, you have no idea how many gigs I've played, how long I've been playing music for. I have not once ever told someone that they have no idea what they're on about and will never do that because I do not put people down.It doesn't take a doctorate in music to know that over the years the criteria to become a singer has dropped in some cases... back in the day before auto=tune and all that, as a singer or a musician, you had to be skilled as hell to make it. Anyone heard Breaking Benjamin live??? Great band, awesome cd, crap live... That's all I'm saying, whether or not anyone else wants to start getting personal, go for it coz I just don't care.

[zircon]

Quote:And now any tom dick and harry can make music... man this would have helped me out back in the day when I couldn't strum chords correctly, always hitting bummed notes... now you can just jugg away, making sure you get the right rhythm and then place the notes wherever - - - INSANITY - - - the art and skill of a musician will one day be dead!!!Not to be a downer, but actually, you can change the rhythm and duration of the notes too, so you don't even have to play that correctly.

[aimusic]

It's not a downer... seriously everyone... I'm not against the software... Really I'm not... I think it's a awesome tool to dissect ur tracks...

[sgs4u]

You're right, we don't know anything about you. However, when I notice someone posting in a manner that divides artists into pros and amateurs, it makes me wonder why they do that. Tho you don't believe in putting people down, as you did below, you've also posted that these tools are a problem, if they're getting used by the "wrong" people.. When you say that technology is responsible for some acts that don't sound as good live because their recordings are polished, it is simply your observation, and I've noticed the same thing. It certainly doess does happen, but, it doesn't create a generality that anyone should live by, or expect to adhere to. Bands have been struggling with how to make their live shows sound as good as their CDs for decades. This is not a new concept. I just find it to be a certain kind of prejudiced predisposition, and I don't agree with it. You make good music, you don't need my approval or agreement. Just be careful not to get JD1 all jacked up. Quote:You do not know me, you have no idea how many gigs I've played, how long I've been playing music for. I have not once ever told someone that they have no idea what they're on about and will never do that because I do not put people down.

[aimusic]

I'm not putting anyone down,,, when I started playing music, I was crap ( I can admit that), I had a few bands, they were crap (meaning a bunch of musicians who don't know how to play pretending that they do). But thankfully I grew and learned my instrument and others. I'm not trying to get anyone jacked up, but I think it's very unfair for someone to make that comment...I get you guys don't agree with my word choices, my bad, poor choice of words. I'm not trying to insult anyone, I'm just airing my opinion of how technology is benefiting us in one way and not in another... Personally I prefer to watch a band who sounds almost like their cd when they play live, and I've seen a few that do. Who can say that when they watch an act they've been dying to see for ages and they sound poor live that they kick back and say " oh well that's just how the music industry works"?I love the concept of getting in there and dissecting tracks to single out pitches, I just know that if I had this piece of technology when I had a "crappy" band that I would have tried to make us sound 1000 000 times better and try and get people to our gigs by handing out free cd's etc.Aren't most things divided into pros and amateurs? I mean I've heard that in pretty much most industries...