Holy Crap!!!

[hummingbird]

Quote: Even today, you can make garbage with the state of the art tools you haveyou been listening to the stuff on my hard drive there, bud?

[arkjack]

In another revelation it is going to change the way we as musicians and artists work. We've been assuming that the musician would take this tool and create great recordings, or that producers would take crap and turn it into gold. From my perspective, after reading the Miley Cyrus remix article in Recording is that guys like me who can make a half decent recording of a decent song and send it out for further 'engineering', and maybe come up with an end result that is far better than what could be produced today in a demo studio, at less cost, and in some respects ... more authentically "me". I would suppose that a lot of those tools are already available today, and that the service of a clean-up analysis and 'mastering' or getting ready for mastering is already around. I have always thought about taking my stem files to a world class engineer in my area for mixing, and a tool like melodyne would be something he could use to scrub the glitches out before the final mix stages. It really is cool and time saving in that respect.ArkJack

[ggalen]

Look, this is obviously not going to do a thing to LIVE music, played by talented musicians who improvise in real time and really know how to play their instrument...and groove as a band.And trust me, the money is all going to be in live, exciting performances in the coming years. I think great live music is becoming more and more rare, and really exciting to experience when you find it. Recordings will get better and better in quality, and people without the ability to actually play the instrument will be able to do the things they conceive of in their heads...in a recording. (That's been the steady trend now for the past 15-20 years with the increasingly sophisticated recording tools we now have. And loops, and Autotune, etc.) It's been a good thing. More good recordings. But soon all these great-sounding popular recordings will pretty much be free, or nearly free, to listeners . (Thank you, file sharing.)Recorded music for films and broadcast TV will still pay royalties. But I am not sure how that will eventually shake out, either, once the Internet becomes the new "broadcast" medium. I guess that's being negotiated now.Anyone agree?

[ibanez468]

Quote:We had a thread a while back about 'what is a producer?'. I thought is was someone who took beats and samples in cubase or some DAW and created a piece without actually playing instruments, or mixing in live instruments and midi with the samples. DJs do a lot of producing, slicing up sounds, samples, and tracks to create new 'music'.Not trying to start anything, and perhaps it was all covered in that particular thread (which was probably before my time here), but as I've read, a producer is much, much more than what was described above. But there again, it was probably all covered in that thread. I'll take a look and see if I can find it. Should be interesting reading. The word "Producer" seems to be a very loose and misunderstood term these days. I think what's been described is only one small aspect of what an overall music producer actually does. Or perhaps, maybe there's more than just one kind of music producer? Maybe I'm wrong. But what I read didn't describe a REAL music producer like that at all. I'll investigate further.ibanez468

[andreh]

Quote:<snip>A guy like Andreh would put this puppy through its paces and make wonderful recordings.<snip>Thanks, I would sure try. Of course, I have a lot to make up for WRT my musical chops (I spend too much time behind a computer screen and not enough behind an instrument), so I'm glad these tools exist!André

[twilsbach]

Truly mind blowing.I've got the Melodyne plug, but I don't really know how to use it yet.Oh, and also..THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!

[prez]

This is a great tool. Actually, this is lunatic. That being said, I'm still a staunch believer where playing and singing it right is still what we strive for. I don't think that is going the way of the dinosaur. But I think that it is being put backburner. But we don't have anything to fear from new technology. I mean, we have it coming out all the time and people making, for lack of a better term, janky music. Like Marty said, knowing what to do with what you got is much more important than having the latest and greatest. I know cats who can put out some mad good stuff on FLStudio that make others who use Pro Tools look like ammys (amateurs). Shoot, for the longest time, Timbaland used an Ensoniq ASR-10 along with Kanye West and the Neptunes, to name a few and that thing came out in the early 90s. But it sure don't matter when they make songs. So technology is all well and good. Makes our jobs easier (and that's a subject for debate in itself. ) But being blessed with experience, talent, know how....that's just priceless (this is not a Visa commercial, thank you very much ).Blessings.

[edteja]

Me like it.

[tedsingingfox]

Lord Have Mercy!!!that's astouding.And JUST as astounding (maybe even MORE so) is the fact that THAT made sense to me. And I have NO knowledge of home recording (YET!), but I totally GOT what they were presenting.God, I need to get busy.Thanks for sharing this, Andreh.Ted

[liamkelly]

Quote:And now any tom dick and harry can make music... man this would have helped me out back in the day when I couldn't strum chords correctly, always hitting bummed notes... now you can just jugg away, making sure you get the right rhythm and then place the notes wherever - - - INSANITY - - - the art and skill of a musician will one day be dead!!!Surely you are joking.Do you really think an editing tool like this is going to kill the 'art and skill of a musician'? Reading your post above ('man this would have helped me out back in the day') am I to infer that you would have gone no further than the first two or three chords you learned? And you would have still contributed meaningful music to the pool? Wow... how you underestimate what you have learned this last ten years...