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Re: Members Contacting Listing Companies -- Ouch!

Post by mojobone » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:30 pm

Sorry, Kevin, but it's information we NEED to know, because many of us don't want the same piece of music to land on a supervisor's desk from two different sources, which can make us look even more clueless than contacting the listing party would.
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Post by brindabella » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:36 pm

mojobone wrote:Sorry, Kevin, but it's information we NEED to know, because many of us don't want the same piece of music to land on a supervisor's desk from two different sources, which can make us look even more clueless than contacting the listing party would.

Very good point Mojo! That's a snaffu i didnt think about! :o
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Post by kevinmathie » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:28 pm

mojobone wrote:Sorry, Kevin, but it's information we NEED to know, because many of us don't want the same piece of music to land on a supervisor's desk from two different sources, which can make us look even more clueless than contacting the listing party would.
Hmm... I never considered that point. Thanks mojo! :)

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Post by wta » Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:03 pm

kevinmathie wrote:
mojobone wrote:Sorry, Kevin, but it's information we NEED to know, because many of us don't want the same piece of music to land on a supervisor's desk from two different sources, which can make us look even more clueless than contacting the listing party would.
Hmm... I never considered that point. Thanks mojo! :)
This is an IMPOSSIBLIITY Mojo unless you're having more than one agent/publisher/library represent the same work and again THAT is taboo as well...
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Re: Members Contacting Listing Companies -- Ouch!

Post by guscave » Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:55 am

wta wrote:
kevinmathie wrote:
mojobone wrote:Sorry, Kevin, but it's information we NEED to know, because many of us don't want the same piece of music to land on a supervisor's desk from two different sources, which can make us look even more clueless than contacting the listing party would.
Hmm... I never considered that point. Thanks mojo! :)
This is an IMPOSSIBLIITY Mojo unless you're having more than one agent/publisher/library represent the same work and again THAT is taboo as well...
It's happening more often than you might think. One of the complaints a lot of supervisors have is the fact that they are getting the same songs from not 2 but sometimes 3 or 4 different libraries. There's a discussion going on about this in another forums:

The problem comes from a lot of writers getting non-exclusive deals and placing their catalogs on different libraries.
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Post by greggo » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:35 am

guscave wrote: It's happening more often than you might think. One of the complaints a lot of supervisors have is the fact that they are getting the same songs from not 2 but sometimes 3 or 4 different libraries. There's a discussion going on about this in another forums:

The problem comes from a lot of writers getting non-exclusive deals and placing their catalogs on different libraries.
Wait... I don't get that. I've had one song forwarded, but I still submit the same song to different listings. Is that a dumb idea?
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Re: Members Contacting Listing Companies -- Ouch!

Post by fullbirdmusic » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:52 am

greggo wrote:
guscave wrote: It's happening more often than you might think. One of the complaints a lot of supervisors have is the fact that they are getting the same songs from not 2 but sometimes 3 or 4 different libraries. There's a discussion going on about this in another forums:

The problem comes from a lot of writers getting non-exclusive deals and placing their catalogs on different libraries.
Wait... I don't get that. I've had one song forwarded, but I still submit the same song to different listings. Is that a dumb idea?
No. Consider the listings an "audition" to have your music presented to the listing party.
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Re: Members Contacting Listing Companies -- Ouch!

Post by fusilierb » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:03 am

greggo wrote:
guscave wrote: It's happening more often than you might think. One of the complaints a lot of supervisors have is the fact that they are getting the same songs from not 2 but sometimes 3 or 4 different libraries. There's a discussion going on about this in another forums:

The problem comes from a lot of writers getting non-exclusive deals and placing their catalogs on different libraries.
Wait... I don't get that. I've had one song forwarded, but I still submit the same song to different listings. Is that a dumb idea?
Until you get your song "signed" to a library continue to pitch it to any and every appropriate company. Once it's signed somewhere, you have to make a decision on whether you continue to try to get it into multiple libraries (Which is a bad idea and which seems to be something that will come to an end with reputable libraries in the very near future)
Sometimes listings aren't looking for a particular song, just want to hear examples of you as an artist. You can always use your songs, whether signed or not, for those purposes.
And if you fast at writing new material, you can always use a song that has been signed to pitch to a new library (whatever) and when and if they contact you, offer them new material.

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Re: Members Contacting Listing Companies -- Ouch!

Post by t4mh » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:04 am

Ya know, if I was in the business of making and selling, oh I don't know, paper clips, I would try to sell them everywhere I could. This of course would create competition among some retailers. Competition is a healthy thing. I don't know why anyone would think music is different. So a library signs your track in a non-exclusive deal and never gets it used. What good were they? Someone else may have a greater success. If the same track appears to a client from several libraries then it is probably a good track, fits what the client asked for and in short, the client should shut up and use it. If you need a paper clip, buy it, where ever you can get it.

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Post by fullbirdmusic » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:16 am

t4mh wrote:Ya know, if I was in the business of making and selling, oh I don't know, paper clips, I would try to sell them everywhere I could. This of course would create competition among some retailers. Competition is a healthy thing. I don't know why anyone would think music is different. So a library signs your track in a non-exclusive deal and never gets it used. What good were they? Someone else may have a greater success. If the same track appears to a client from several libraries then it is probably a good track, fits what the client asked for and in short, the client should shut up and use it. If you need a paper clip, buy it, where ever you can get it.

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The competition model is a good point. However, the competition is good at undercutting. The supply of music is so great that it saturates the market and the LOWEST bidder goes home with a "deal." Now, that might not be a "good" deal, but competition lowers when there are more members in the market. That's when the lowerlings get squeezed out and the healthy stay in. But I think that's a bit off topic, sorry :ugeek:
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