On Target But Not Forwarded?

[hummingbird]

As others have posted, it's hard for us to help you at all without knowing the specifics. Therefore, you need to post the listing, the entire critique, the lyrics & a link to the song.If the same song is being returned by some and forwarded by some then I would advise you to see this as an exact reflection of the response by the industry to the song. Decisions are made based on what the lyrics say and how they say it.You have two choices. You can say, song A has been forwarded and it has been returned. I'm not going to change it, since it has had forwards. However, I will take the feedback into the next songs I write. If the same song has been returned 2 or 3 times, then I would take a good look at what the screeners are saying and consider option B, rewriting the lyrics. As to your frustration.... perhaps you don't realize that getting forwards is extremely difficult and many of us struggle to get one (or haven't had one yet). So the fact you are getting forwards DOES matter.As to your insinuation that you are being forwarded occasionally to 'keep you happy'. Yeah? I think some other forum members would ask why you and not them. I've been a member of Taxi (and this forum) for 4 years. I got my first forward 2.5 years after joining. But more than that, the clients of TAXI would not be impressed to get substandard tracks for any reason whatsoever. The screening process at TAXI is the number one reason why it is so successful. TAXI vets all the listing parties, so if you have concerns or questions about any company you are forwarded to, call customer service and let them know.

[trocat]

I'm not sure I buy into everything Aub Delane is stating, especially with starting the reply off with the wrong name. It's Troy not Tony. Make's me wonder if you have that reply canned (don't take offense, I do appreciate the reply effort). In any case, I still got to believe, if it fits what the lister is asking for and is scoring high, then forward it and let them decide! Isn't that the way it's supposed to work?Regarding web presence, IMHO, anyone in the music/entertainment business (in this day, 15 years into the internet age!) who is trying to make something of their company and want to achieve growth would have info online in some fashion. It just doesn't make sense in this day and age not have it if you are serious and legit!Troy

[davewalton]

Jun 20, 2008, 8:04am, trocat wrote:Regarding web presence, IMHO, anyone in the music/entertainment business (in this day, 15 years into the internet age!) who is trying to make something of their company and want to achieve growth would have info online in some fashion. It just doesn't make sense in this day and age not have it if you are serious and legit!TroyThe company that is responsible for placing my music (as well as the music of several others on this forum) into network television regularly each month has no internet presence and no public visibility of any kind. This was a straight-out Taxi deal and is as legit as legit can be.For many of these companies, they have their contacts and have found their niche. A public web presence would only clog their pipes with people sending music and making requests that they neither want nor need.

[orest]

I have been in this situation many times as well. But I think that the screener must use his gut feeling. The critique is very useful thou, it helps me to approve my song(s) and maybe get them forwarded next time!

[bc]

Troy, munch on Aub's post for a while. Take a break, then come back to it and read it again later. Absorb the nuances he succinctly describes. Lot's of good feedback here, but Aub's post boils it down to a low gravy that you will do well to pour all over your muse bc

[aubreyz]

Jun 20, 2008, 8:04am, trocat wrote:I'm not sure I buy into everything Aub Delane is stating, especially with starting the reply off with the wrong name. It's Troy not Tony. Make's me wonder if you have that reply canned (don't take offense, I do appreciate the reply effort). ...TroyTroy,My apologies for screwing up the name. I often have the symptoms of additive dyslexia when in a hurry. So here's the deal... I read your post, and have better things to do than type a response but think.... Yeah-- I've been where that guy is... I'll try to help him understand what it took me several years to learn... then get the "makes me think that was canned"... response. At least you didn't accuse me of working for Taxi Although I'm getting to the point of "why even bother", if you really want to know how Taxi and this business works, there are many of us around here who have been members of both Taxi and this forum for quite some time, with varying levels of success. Whether you want to learn or are more content to just rant is up to you. Your post struck me as you might be in the former rather than latter category. We'll see.Aub

[matto]

Hi Troy,one thing I can tell you from having been to numerous live critiquing sessions by major A&R people and publishers for some 15 years now: it is FAR more often the lyric than it is music or really any other factor that they ite as the main reason they are not interested in a song or it "doesn't work" for them. As a result, Taxi screeners will be tough on lyrics, particularly if it is for high bar artist or song pitches.As far as web presence, some of the most prominent music supervision firms working on today's biggest Hollywood blockbusters have zero web presence, and it's on purpose:Since their name appears prominently in the movies' credits they would be flooded with unwanted submission if they did, and they have no interest in that...HTH,matto

[heinsite]

howdy--on the lyrics, i'm learning the hard (but fixable) way that they care a helluva lot about the lyrics--even if you can't tell it from the friggin' crap on the raydeeoh--, and second, hell, if a tune/tunes are being forwarded to some listings and not to others, that's the way life is sometimes. hell, i'll take a forward vs. a no forward anytime!! if a song is submitted say 10 times, and you get 4 forwards, much better than a stick in the eye!!all the best to you,warren

[Casey H]

Jun 20, 2008, 8:04am, trocat wrote:I'm not sure I buy into everything Aub Delane is stating, especially with starting the reply off with the wrong name. It's Troy not Tony. Make's me wonder if you have that reply canned (don't take offense, I do appreciate the reply effort). In any case, I still got to believe, if it fits what the lister is asking for and is scoring high, then forward it and let them decide! Isn't that the way it's supposed to work?Regarding web presence, IMHO, anyone in the music/entertainment business (in this day, 15 years into the internet age!) who is trying to make something of their company and want to achieve growth would have info online in some fashion. It just doesn't make sense in this day and age not have it if you are serious and legit!TroyWhoa!!I read Aub's response and don't you think you reply to it was a little uncalled for? His reply was completely polite and helpful... Anyone can mistype a name, especially here where we use display names. Saying it was a canned response was pretty insulting. People here are taking the time to help you. Not every reply posted will be a "taxi is always right" one. You'll find many here will be plain honest. Although we agree with screeners the great majority of the time, when we don't we say so (I know I do).A number of folks suggested you post the full listing text, a link to a song, lyrics, and the full review. That would be more productive than replying to Aub as you did. I also asked you to tell us a little about the types of listings you've submitted to and been rejected. That's along the same lines as the above.If you post all of the information I promise to give you my honest, unbiased opinion. And I think you owe Aub an apology.Casey

[taxirobin]

Hi Troy - I'm head of the screener program here at Taxi. If you'd like me to take a look at the feedback you've been getting, please get in touch with me at Taxi. Email: robin@taxi.comRobin