Downloading Loops

[ibanez468]

Yes, I know you do, and dammit I'm gonna' work at somethin' until we find a way to get ya' some! You've got Addictive Drums, and that's a great start, we just gotta' get your hosting program (or some other program) to agree with AD. Cakewalk 9 was a pretty cool program. It had a cool feature in it that I liked that disappeared once the versions started to climb upwards. I'm glad I kept that version. I still have the OS that can accommodate that program.I-468

[andreh]

Quote:Quote:If you're using drum loops, audio versions are just about as easy to edit to custom time signatures as midi versions (if a bit less flexible) thanks to their, ahem, "percussive" nature. I wouldn't let your specific needs steer you away from using them.Andre thanks....where would I look for this?...wheels are turnin' Just good ol' fashioned editing. Set your grid to whatever note resolution make sense for the desired edit (16th notes work well often, but some of my crazier cuts go down to 64th or even 128th note edits), and chop away! You can pretty easily re-arrange kick, snare, and hat parts of a loop without things sounding funky [unless that's your goal]. And if they do get weird, you can always grab from another spot, or nudge start/end/positions until things gel.Also bear in mind that loops with any "feel" are going to have notes that land slightly before or after the beat, so you'll have to edit accordingly. There are several programs that make this easier such as Recycle, Sound Replacer (Pro Tools only), etc.André

[vicky]

andre....when you buy these loops, can you separate drums? In the past I've run into wanting to get rid of a hihat that is sounding with the kick....I'm new at this...when you buy the loops are they separate for each drum?thanks so much,vtbp

[andreh]

Quote:andre....when you buy these loops, can you separate drums? In the past I've run into wanting to get rid of a hihat that is sounding with the kick....I'm new at this...when you buy the loops are they separate for each drum?thanks so much,vtbpVicky-Different packages come with different options, which may include: individual instrument parts from the loop (construction kits), single hits from each instrument ("one shots"), midi data reflecting the performance of the parts, "Recycle" or "Groove Control" versions of the loop that are edited and mapped to midi notes to make re-arrangement and tempo changes easier, "Acid" or "Live" versions of the loop that are processed to make tempo or key changes easier, or just a stereo audio track of the complete loop.In my earlier posts on this thread I was referring to merely editing the complete, stereo audio track version of a loop. Even with only this option, it's amazing how much variety you can achieve. It's true that you run into limitations like kicks and hats being combined, but there are workarounds such as low-pass filtering to remove hi frequency content (and vice versa), searching harder for an example of the part you're seeking in isolation, or just accepting the sound "as is" (my least favorite option, but in the big picture these compromises don't always harm your overall production as much as you might think).André

[vicky]

André...right on!!!!! thanks

[texasmusicforge]

Loops are an easy option if you'll just pay a bit of attention to where they're coming from. Most commercial loop libraries and sets are sold with no restriction other than claiming them as your own and re-selling them or making them available for download. Using them in a "for profit" project is legally okay and you're not required to do anything further. Products from any larger vendor like Sony, Big Fish Audio, etc. will be licensed like this. All of the commercially-available loop sets I've authored are sold like this. A good - and less expensive - alternative is to use loops with a Creative Commons license which allows "for profit" use of the loops with only a credit (and sometimes a link) being given to the creator. There are literally tens of thousands of loops available on the 'Net like this. I have plenty of this stuff available for download on various websites with a Creative Commons license like this and have had my loops pop up in compositions by others on broadcast TV, websites and multimedia productions. Google "Creative Commons loop downloads" or something similar and I'm sure you'll find plenty of stuff to use without having to worry about the legalities.

[mazz]

Yes, while it's true in general that most commercial companies allow unrestricted usage, many still restrict the use in production music libraries. One cannot be 100% sure without reading the fine print. You mention Big Fish and they are one of the ones that limit the usage of their construction kits. Other libraries of theirs, particularly sample based instruments, are pretty much unrestricted. The moral is: educate yourself before you put your money down.Also, as Andre pointed out, most contracts put the onus on the composer to guarantee that any resources used in the music are "clean". So what it really boils down to is: are you 100% certain before you put pen to contract that all of your loops are "clean"? Comfort levels vary in this regard and the decision is completely up to you because ultimately you're held legally responsible for making sure.Mazz