Madonna pushing boundaries

[jchitty]

Here's Madonna's new video. Of course, Madonna's always been about sexuality, so it's nothing new for her. But this new video seems to be making a statement about being older (she's 50) and claiming your sexuality. I have mixed feelings about this....I was brought up in the South where you're supposed to maintain a certain 'ladylike decorum' after a certain age, but then again, if someone feels sexy at age 92, more power to 'em.Still, there's a part of me that misses 'the maturation process' for women...I remember my grandmother, wearing her garden hat, ready to plant tomatoes and not a thought about the men in her life or being sexy to them...as she said, 'she'd passed that stage and she was glad for it.' LOL.So will Madonna start blazing a trail (although it's already been blazed long ago) for older women to wear sexy lingerie like attire complete with black hose to Wal-Mart?Me, I still like my garden hat. You be the judge:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HRBRufepbw

[davewalton]

Jul 11, 2008, 6:56am, jchitty wrote:...but then again, if someone feels sexy at age 92, more power to 'em.When you're hot, you're hot...

[davekershaw]

Jul 11, 2008, 8:45am, davewalton wrote:Jul 11, 2008, 6:56am, jchitty wrote:...but then again, if someone feels sexy at age 92, more power to 'em.When you're hot, you're hot... Wow! Is that from her new video?She's lookin' good!

[squids]

Lovin' the footgear! I think there does need to be a reassessment publicly of what sexuality means. The problem is we're bombarded with images of youth, youth, youth. Makes it hard for folks to embrace the baby boomers' young attitudes. 'Member I was telling you about the article I read about how women over 40 shouldn't wear: short sleeves, capris, close-fitting anything, yada yada? The dang thing was two pages long!I haven't worn shorts all summer. I'm dyin' heah. I have no idea why that affected me so either. Normally I wouldn't let anyone tell me what to wear so clearly I have internal conflicts about aging. Stupid, stupid. Good post!

[ncc1701]

Jul 11, 2008, 9:22am, squids wrote:I think there does need to be a reassessment publicly of what sexuality means. The problem is we're bombarded with images of youth, youth, youth. Makes it hard for folks to embrace the baby boomers' young attitudes. I'll turn 40 this December, and I have noticed something interesting. Whenever I watch a movie or TV show, I really enjoy and appreciate the love stories that feature middle-aged couples. I think it's nice to see mature romances that have to do with being attracted to someone mentally and emotionally as well as physically. I've had my fill of the sizzling hot young things in lust. (OK, there's a time and place for that too! )

[jchitty]

Jul 11, 2008, 9:22am, squids wrote:Lovin' the footgear! I think there does need to be a reassessment publicly of what sexuality means. The problem is we're bombarded with images of youth, youth, youth. Makes it hard for folks to embrace the baby boomers' young attitudes. 'Member I was telling you about the article I read about how women over 40 shouldn't wear: short sleeves, capris, close-fitting anything, yada yada? The dang thing was two pages long!I haven't worn shorts all summer. I'm dyin' heah. I have no idea why that affected me so either. Normally I wouldn't let anyone tell me what to wear so clearly I have internal conflicts about aging. Stupid, stupid. Good post! First off, Dave, thanks for the pic....the lady looks like the offspring of Groucho Marx and Madonna. I agree mostly with you here, Squiddy....good points. Yeah, I do remember that article, girl. I really think women should be who they are....if they want to be wear capris and shorts until they're 100, they should do so. I wear shorts all the time...it's hot down South as you said, and if my legs don't look great to folks, well, tough. If they want to be sexy like Madonna, they should. I know how you feel though.....ridiculous articles like that are silly, and they can make women feel apprehensive for wearing clothes that are perfectly appropriate, although I won't be wearing a thong bathing suit anytime soon. (see, we all have internal conflicts about aging, hehe)My biggest concern is that there seems to be a backlash against aging in the reverse. It's pushing baby boomers to stay young and not age like they think their parents did. I think there is a danger in that too....we all know the stories of older people having continuous face lifts and coming out rather bizarre looking. I'm not against face lifts though....if they make people feel good, they should do them. I guess it's all about choices...if you want to be like Madonna, go for it. If you want to age like women in your grandmother's day aged (well, all women didn't all age that way, some wanted to embrace still being sexy), then you should go that way as well.Sometimes in the name of freedom for women (which they surely should have the sexual freedom to feel attractive at any age) we can swing the pendulum too far the other way, and women might get the message that it's not okay to be anything other than a sexy 60 year old. And man, it's fightin' time and gravity after a while. I'll add one more thing....Jessica Tandy, who was 80 at the time she won the Oscar for "Driving Miss Daisy" was said by some of the academy goers to be "the most beautiful woman in the room." She's wasn't sexy in that overt way, but her beauty shone through, so maybe the definition of 'sexy' needs some redefinition too.

[squids]

Mo!!! Nice one!!That's the sweetest thing I've heard all week. Awwww.

[Mark Kaufman]

Madonna may be 50...but she can streeeeeeetch, and she can KICK.

[kg]

Peanut gallery chiming in here...I'm about to ramble without making much sense, so prepare yourselves.I've always thought of sexy/attractive and the way you look in your hot pants as two entirely different things. Sure, lots of times they come in the same package, but I think that confident beauty that shines through in any person of any age comes with being happy with yourself to and extent and just being who you are. I guess I'm getting into the beautiful sexy side here vs. the outright "busty" sexy side LOL. Anyway, onto the comment on Madonna, she's a dancer...as am I technically, and one thing most true dancers do throughout their lives is stay in great shape no matter what age they are; even as they age, they tend to do what they know and that's move a certain way, carry themselves a certain way and continue to show signs of being a former ballerina no matter what maturity brings on, even if it is just a few extra pounds. Totally going off into my own world now, but I actually think that Madonna's toned down appearance now, versus what I experienced as a young child is fairly respectable. I guess I just don't see her age, I see someone who takes care of her appearance for herself, and doesn't care what others think. So there's the gem in that, no matter who you are, if you take care of yourself and you're happy with who you are, then I guess that's all you need to worry about. So if you're comfortable in your shorts, then shorts it is I'm full of it aren't I?

[Mark Kaufman]

That was hot. Just kidding... I totally agree. What the general public calls sexy and what I call sexy are usually quite different. But you pretty much nailed it right there. Health, confidence, ability to let your own personality shine through...that's ten times sexier than any outfit or makeup or surgery or false attitude.