She's Doing Me (With Her Clothes On) R&B

[ciskokidd]

Mar 17, 2009, 4:35pm, sgs4u wrote:Cisko, sure the guy's remarks were questionable, but there are a lot of people in the world brother. Surely you didn't mean to point your anger at everyone who isn't American. Steve,You know where my heart is man. To all my non-American friends this was in no way a slight to the great music you all make.I was just peaved at the comment made by IG. I take the same tact when my countrymen rag on the French or anyone else. There are good creative people the world over and hey my two long time collaborators are a Swiss guy and a Swede! Best,Cisko

[ciskokidd]

Mar 17, 2009, 5:30pm, hummingbird wrote:Opera is Italian Yes, I know - I know.And my favorite composer all time is Austrian so I'm aware it's not just about America.I just don't like people who are seeking a little help and may not have their skills up to par being torn apart the way IG did in his post - and then he takes his little swipe at Americans as if we are the only ones who consume our popular music.Warmest,Cisko

[sgs4u]

Mar 17, 2009, 6:52pm, ciskokidd wrote:Steve,You know where my heart is man. To all my non-American friends this was in no way a slight to the great music you all make. I was just peaved at the comment made by IG. CiskoI knew exactly where your heart is man. In a perfect place! I only mentioned it 'cause I figured you didn't really want to be responding with the same kinda crap he was throwing around... Who wants to get lumped in with that kinda mean-spirited foolishness? IG, do like Casey said. Get constructive man. There's no reason to shit on a guy's music, the way you did. It's just music.

[Mark Kaufman]

Hey Suprafly, Mark Here. Yeah, production and musical concept needs more work, and it needs to be targeted closer to a style that's happening right now. Keep working it, you'll find it. I read your lyrics about a half an hour before I listened to the music (I'm at work, a pizza place). When I read the lyrics, I liked the idea. The hook in the title is killer. It's hot as hell...and when I read the lyric, I see you worked that angle pretty good throughout the song. But now I want to hear it a little smarter, a little deeper. I want to know a little more about what she's doing...I want to see more pictures of her. You make us see a lot with the description of the sexy clothes, and the chorus is great, because whatever she's doing there we can leave to happy imaginations. But in the verses, I think there's a little room to put across something memorable about who she is...something about her personality that's hotter than hell, other than just the clothes...one line could do it...and something about her face. Really. We see a body, but if you bring in something about the face...a smile, eyes, raised eyebrow, anything...then we'll have her in our minds...male and female listeners will see someone, and like her too. But when it's all body, it's a little more common and harder to remember, lots of songs like that. This one is a real cool idea and I'd look at it like it's still getting worked up to something great.And IG88, no one ever gets great through getting put down. Yeah, we need to be honest with a critique. We can do it without kicking each other in the pants. Sorry to get all blunt...I know that straight talk is necessary and even rare, that in the long run it's like doing a favor to lay it all out as we see it, unfiltered. A lot of people agree. It's just that I think when we make a critique harsh enough to make the writer feel the work is ridiculous, then it really IS filtered...with contempt. Lots of that available in the real world, but most of us come here to get better. It's good to have a place where you can get the same straight talk, but from good companions.Whoa, who put this soapbox here? Time for a beer.Work it, Suprafly! I wanna SEE her.-Mark

[hummingbird]

Mar 17, 2009, 6:58pm, ciskokidd wrote:Mar 17, 2009, 5:30pm, hummingbird wrote:Opera is Italian Yes, I know - I know.And my favorite composer all time is Austrian so I'm aware it's not just about America.I just don't like people who are seeking a little help and may not have their skills up to par being torn apart the way IG did in his post - and then he takes his little swipe at Americans as if we are the only ones who consume our popular music.Warmest,CiskoI know and I agree.

[suprafly]

Hello everyone,Woke up this mourning and saw all the comments .Didn't know this would generate such a controversy !!! I'd much rather hear what people consider wrong with the song, than people telling you "it's good"! I think a lot of people don't want to hurt an individual's feeling by negative comments. I'm from Chicago's south-side (Homicide central ). There's very little that one can say that will effect me .Cisko's comments were right on the ball as far I'm concerned and that's is exactly what I'm looking for. This isn't a completed record, but a concept. I'm hoping to flesh it out here and take it to that level.IG88,you do have valid point's and I still would not disregard your comments. I do like the bluntness of the comments. It make me reassess the work more and work harder on it.Mark, thanks for comments. Generally, my thoughts for songs are a little more adult contemporary, but this idea came up from a phrase someone stated while we were conversing. I'm much more of a lyricist, than a producer.This is first song that I have set to music, so I've got a huge learning curve. If anyone would like to collaborate on this, I'm in .To all the individuals who are a part of Taxi and who may feel that there music is not good enough to be heard on a public forum, this is for you. Follow my lead and put it out there!!! Take the comments and grow.Again, love it hate or hate it. I'm so glad I put it here and got all the feedback (positive and negative).Guess I've got some work to do and I'm ready !!!

[ig88]

Mar 17, 2009, 4:11pm, ciskokidd wrote:Mar 17, 2009, 3:52pm, ig88 wrote:Are you serious? This is so wack, the vocals are dry and distant and it sounds like Luther Vandross meets michael jackson over boring production. Is this supposed to be R&B? Haha umm i guess the lyrics are so stupid and cliche that common american people would gobble it up but you need some solid production first. Do you do any of the things you write about? You have an approach i will give you that. Damn IG,Give the dude a break man. And to your American people comment: take a look at any of the world charts and you see American music dominating. I'm so sick of all you haters mass consuming our popular culture and then acting all high and mighty. Which record industry dominates? AmericanWhich film industry dominates? AmericanRock and Roll is AmericanHip-Hop is AmericanR&B is AmericanCountry is American Jazz is AmericanThe Dance music you all seem to think is yours is just 4 on the floor Disco with new sounds. Disco? Oh yeah, that was American too!!If all you can do is hate on people, I'm through with you. Have a good life!Smell ya later,CiskoCisko Kid,Well before you are done with me forever let me explain myself. I was honest and blunt, that does not make me a "hater" I ended with "you have a nice approach here" and I also made comments on the mix. I never once said "stop making music" or called him any names, i only said it needs work. Its not like all i ever say is bad, if someone has a solid mix on a genre i hate i will still let them know they did a great job. I learn a lot more not only in music but also in life by having people give it to me straight. You completely misunderstood my american music reference (just as it seems you often misunderstand me). I only said americans would love this once its done, so according to your American's musically dominating tangent, that too could also be a constructive comment. Even Suprafly said that he liked my comments and me being so blunt. Just as Mark said on the thread it is doing someone a favor in the long run. Also WTF is 4 on the floor disco? Please explain.

[ig88]

Mar 17, 2009, 6:58pm, ciskokidd wrote:Mar 17, 2009, 5:30pm, hummingbird wrote:Opera is Italian Yes, I know - I know.And my favorite composer all time is Austrian so I'm aware it's not just about America.I just don't like people who are seeking a little help and may not have their skills up to par being torn apart the way IG did in his post - and then he takes his little swipe at Americans as if we are the only ones who consume our popular music.Warmest,CiskoQuote from Immortal Technique"If you go platinum its got nothing to do with luck, It just means that a million people are stupid as F***"

[geo]

The French think Jerry Lewis is God.... the Germans Hasselhoff... the rest of the world has just as much bad taste as Americans... LOL.... and there is no more cliche saying than "wack"...Everyone chill.....Hey Suprafly... I started to critique this yesterday but got interupted.... needs work... you got some good advice above... don't wait so long before your next post there is a lot of help here and you seem to have the right attitude...Peace, Geo

[suprafly]

Thanks Geo and Casey,Already in the process of re-write. Sorry to all, was just looking for some feedback. Didn't mean to start an international war with a song post . Maybe next time I'll post a country tune .