Journey Home... New Bass line, thanks Bill!!

[cjdenecia]

Nov 19, 2008, 7:33pm, cameron wrote:Gotta say CJ, you do come across as a bit of an "expert" in some of your posts. It would be nice to hear some of your songs too and maybe know some of your background. That doesn't mean your opinions aren't valid (I actually think it sounds a bit dated too to be honest with you) just that it would give your opinions a bit more credibility (or not). I apologize if you've posted this previously and I've missed it.Camwell, I was (and am) of the opinion that it's best to give first and take second. ie - listen and review first and then introduce my own stuff after ... but I understand how the cred factor works into this ...but - (and this is no disclaimer, just an advance alibi ... wait, whoa, I guess it IS a disclaimer!) we frequently are better at critiquing others than we are ourselves. it's that old "do as I say, not as I do" philosophy at work ...at any rate, one of my songs is already here and been critiqued but I forget exactly where in this vast forum it is ... posted by screen name stephen - mixing and mastering advise or something was his thread title ... it was what brought me here. I was impressed with the opinions given and I followed the trail to these forums.yet I don't want to muck up this thread with my links to songs - suggestions on where best to show ya'll a bit? it can be for review or just to get an idea on me - I'm good either way. I'm just not real big on starting "look at me and my widdle songs" posts right off the bat. I just walked in off the street, I figured paying attention to the locals first was the best way to go.on a personal basis, inside info on me isn't gonna fly freely. suffice it to say I'm an american residing in the UK.ohhhh and I NEVER EVER use emoticons (smilies) ... I hate 'em. a lot. and whenever I seem dry and emotionless, you can guess I'm sitting with a shit eating grin on my face ...EDIT note - good to meet you amp, we seem to be in reverse situations globally.

[cameron]

Nov 20, 2008, 1:31am, cjdenecia wrote:ohhhh and I NEVER EVER use emoticons (smilies) ... I hate 'em. a lot. and whenever I seem dry and emotionless, you can guess I'm sitting with a shit eating grin on my face ...EDIT note - good to meet you amp, we seem to be in reverse situations globally.Ahhh good... must be one of those dry humor (excuse me... humour) types then? Sounds like you'll be right at home in the UK if that's the case. I'm from New Zealand originally and we have a bit of that in my family as well. I can certainly relate to it being easier to critique other's work rather than your own... and sorry if I came across as rude myself.Cam

[feaker]

geoI feel like you in that any comment will help. I would much rather someone give a negative thought than for nobody to say anything. At least you can say, here is a guy I do not know has taken considerable time to tell it like he see's it. If he thought it totally sucked, he most likely would not reply. I know you don't have an ego problem.No reflection to Mike here, but I thought my niece had about the best voice I had ever heard.I kept getting back replies like "she sounds opera to me" etc. Gave me something to think about. I also know that by my singing my own tunes it is most certain to give it the kiss of death. Pardon me for this Sad part is that all that went on in this thread, I completely forgot what the song sounded like. Do remember I loved the bass and drums.Have to go back again.Paul

[billg]

hey Geo! The drums in this sound good to me. I never listen to the radio anymore so I really shouldn't (can't) comment on the genre. It doesn't sound remotely like Tears For Fears to me. I think the bass style (are you popping?) might be outdated unless it came back in vogue while I was asleep, which is quite possible. I think if that's left out the song would "tighten" up. I like it, don't quit working on it.

[geo]

Nov 20, 2008, 8:03am, billg wrote:hey Geo! The drums in this sound good to me. I never listen to the radio anymore so I really shouldn't (can't) comment on the genre. It doesn't sound remotely like Tears For Fears to me. I think the bass style (are you popping?) might be outdated unless it came back in vogue while I was asleep, which is quite possible. I think if that's left out the song would "tighten" up. I like it, don't quit working on it.Wait popping went outa style? Damn! Funny thing back in the day I wrote this song to learn the technique... never got very good at it.... think I try regular line.... thanks Bill

[geo]

Nov 20, 2008, 1:31am, cjdenecia wrote:Nov 19, 2008, 7:33pm, cameron wrote:Gotta say CJ, you do come across as a bit of an "expert" in some of your posts. It would be nice to hear some of your songs too and maybe know some of your background. That doesn't mean your opinions aren't valid (I actually think it sounds a bit dated too to be honest with you) just that it would give your opinions a bit more credibility (or not). I apologize if you've posted this previously and I've missed it.Camwell, I was (and am) of the opinion that it's best to give first and take second. ie - listen and review first and then introduce my own stuff after ... but I understand how the cred factor works into this ...but - (and this is no disclaimer, just an advance alibi ... wait, whoa, I guess it IS a disclaimer!) we frequently are better at critiquing others than we are ourselves. it's that old "do as I say, not as I do" philosophy at work ...at any rate, one of my songs is already here and been critiqued but I forget exactly where in this vast forum it is ... posted by screen name stephen - mixing and mastering advise or something was his thread title ... it was what brought me here. I was impressed with the opinions given and I followed the trail to these forums.yet I don't want to muck up this thread with my links to songs - suggestions on where best to show ya'll a bit? it can be for review or just to get an idea on me - I'm good either way. I'm just not real big on starting "look at me and my widdle songs" posts right off the bat. I just walked in off the street, I figured paying attention to the locals first was the best way to go.on a personal basis, inside info on me isn't gonna fly freely. suffice it to say I'm an american residing in the UK.ohhhh and I NEVER EVER use emoticons (smilies) ... I hate 'em. a lot. and whenever I seem dry and emotionless, you can guess I'm sitting with a shit eating grin on my face ...EDIT note - good to meet you amp, we seem to be in reverse situations globally.You can call me Geo I occasionally will use smileys (that's my fav)Sorry if we seemed a little put off at first ..... ya came out swinging for a newbie ... speaking for myself and most in these parts if I may be so bold.... don't mind the criticism , just want to know where it originates.... you find everything from rank amateurs to pros here .... nice to have another set of ears around....Peace, Geo

[geo]

Nov 20, 2008, 7:47am, feaker wrote:geoI feel like you in that any comment will help. I would much rather someone give a negative thought than for nobody to say anything. At least you can say, here is a guy I do not know has taken considerable time to tell it like he see's it. If he thought it totally sucked, he most likely would not reply. I know you don't have an ego problem.No reflection to Mike here, but I thought my niece had about the best voice I had ever heard.I kept getting back replies like "she sounds opera to me" etc. Gave me something to think about. I also know that by my singing my own tunes it is most certain to give it the kiss of death. Pardon me for this Sad part is that all that went on in this thread, I completely forgot what the song sounded like. Do remember I loved the bass and drums.Have to go back again.PaulI thought you did a good job on your last post (singing ) hey.... it's gotta be as least as good as my singing.... can't believe anyone else could be worst than me !! I once had a return for a song pitch for being outa genre based on the vocal alone... which I thought was BS on the screener's side (no surprise there)I happy with Mike's voice , I understand the possible handicaps it presents but Kurt Cobain ain't walking through that door!!! Thanks PaulPeace, Geo

[geo]

Nov 19, 2008, 11:33pm, kitz wrote:Amp,There is so much good stuff in this tune!! However, cold wind blows maybe should not ascend melodically, that section is a little awkward melodically. "On and on" seems to be drawn out. Maybe something like "on and on he goes" and crescendo out instead of extending that section. Leave the mystery. There are a couple of spots in the solo where the guitar bends don't quite make it to pitch. You might want to push them up.Just a thought - on the end you might let the guitar die much quicker and the vocals hold the end alone.I think you're so close to a finish. Like I said - I hear so much good stuff in here. Just my dos pesos.KitzThanks Kitz!!! You know I noticed the cold wind section during production.... I think Mike sang the first verse in a different range/melody.... that part should ascend....Not surprised the bends are a little off it's me playing.... just the fact you didn't say it's a horrible part makes me feel good!!! I have to hook up with my cousin's BF... he lives in Conn and is itching to do this for me.... he's tech challenged but the best guitarist I've heard.... just gotta make the drive....I'll redo the ending as you suggest....Thanks for the listen....Peace, Geo

[stephen1977]

Nov 20, 2008, 1:31am, cjdenecia wrote:at any rate, one of my songs is already here and been critiqued but I forget exactly where in this vast forum it is ... posted by screen name stephen - mixing and mastering advise or something was his thread title ... it was what brought me here. I was impressed with the opinions given and I followed the trail to these forums."Season's Sigh" http://taxi.proboards27.com/index.cgi?b ... 5Quote:yet I don't want to muck up this thread with my links to songs - suggestions on where best to show ya'll a bit? it can be for review or just to get an idea on me - I'm good either way.Just link it up bro. The MSS site, AV, wherever. I have a lot of your material on my taxi page as well.I can vouch for this guy (Cj). He does a superb job of reviewing music. You want the truth and probably the best advice you could ever get? Hit this man up. He has taught me a lot over the years and in turn has become one of my best and trusted friends. By the way AMP, cool tune. I would go with the 70's vibe as well. Like others have mentioned, it needs some work, but the ideas are solid and worth pursuing.BTW how's your site coming along? I was over there today checking it out.

[geo]

Nov 20, 2008, 10:11am, stephen1977 wrote:Nov 20, 2008, 1:31am, cjdenecia wrote:at any rate, one of my songs is already here and been critiqued but I forget exactly where in this vast forum it is ... posted by screen name stephen - mixing and mastering advise or something was his thread title ... it was what brought me here. I was impressed with the opinions given and I followed the trail to these forums."Season's Sigh" http://taxi.proboards27.com/index.cgi?b ... 5Quote:yet I don't want to muck up this thread with my links to songs - suggestions on where best to show ya'll a bit? it can be for review or just to get an idea on me - I'm good either way.Just link it up bro. The MSS site, AV, wherever. I have a lot of your material on my taxi page as well.I can vouch for this guy (Cj). He does a superb job of reviewing music. You want the truth and probably the best advice you could ever get? Hit this man up. He has taught me a lot over the years and in turn has become one of my best and trusted friends. By the way AMP, cool tune. I would go with the 70's vibe as well. Like others have mentioned, it needs some work, but the ideas are solid and worth pursuing.BTW how's your site coming along? I was over there today checking it out.Thanks Steve....Sites coming along slowly..... my PC crashed and I had a hard time finding a recovery CD .... finally found one on line after HP was no help so just waiting for it's arrival.... pursuing the international angle to start.... this was a classic Geo leap then look .... plan on contacting you in January... busy at work through New Years now.... bout a couple of ideas.... Peace, Geo