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Re: They Call Her Barracuda

Post by remmet » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:46 am

Sept 11, 2008, 1:24pm, heinsite wrote:absolutely no comment, or it would get real nasty...sorry (on this one only my friend...)peace,warrenHaving just written a scathing letter to the editor about the song's subject, I'll hold my tongue as well. But I did think the music had some charm.Of course if the music was meant to be a parody ala Mel Brooks' The Producers (e.g., Springtime for Hitler), I could get behind it.Richard

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Post by rld » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:05 am

Sept 10, 2008, 4:12pm, sgs4u wrote:The McCain campaign has now reportedly used five songs without permission,Heart — Barracudahttp://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080906/people_nm/heart_palin_dcWhy do politicians believe it's Ok to steal songs for their own uses? Steal? Used without permission?Quote: The McCain campaign said it had obtained the appropriate licenses to play the song."The McCain campaign respects intellectual property rights," spokesman Brian Rogers said. "Accordingly, prior to using 'Barracuda' at any events, we paid for and obtained all necessary licenses."Copyright law may not be on the Wilsons' side as the song is licensed for public performance under a blanket fee paid by the venue to ASCAP, the firm that collects royalties on behalf of composers and copyright owners.

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Re: They Call Her Barracuda

Post by heinsite » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:38 pm

oh, when she was named, the first words outta my mouth were:"Palin by comparison..." now i might write that one...the best,heinsite

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Post by teashea » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:16 am

Thanks for the comments everyone.Tom

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Re: They Call Her Barracuda

Post by llama » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:55 pm

Hey Tom,Like the lyrics, cool stuff my man. I would say that the vocals need a little more energy to them IMHO. Feels like they're coasting along when there are times they should be more ballsy, especially in the chorus. As BillG said, a slide guitar would be very nice too. Would also be good to have the song build as it progresses through instead of being at one level. It's hard to differentiate between verse and chorus IMHO. Has a good overall feel to it but lacks a certain energy, again it feels like the vocals need to break out a little. Thanks for posting this. I wish you luck....Derek

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Post by cyndy » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:07 pm

Tom,Didja check your PM yet?

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Post by mojobone » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:04 pm

Sept 11, 2008, 2:05pm, rld wrote:Sept 10, 2008, 4:12pm, sgs4u wrote:The McCain campaign has now reportedly used five songs without permission,Heart — Barracudahttp://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080906/people_nm/heart_palin_dcWhy do politicians believe it's Ok to steal songs for their own uses? Steal? Used without permission?Quote: The McCain campaign said it had obtained the appropriate licenses to play the song."The McCain campaign respects intellectual property rights," spokesman Brian Rogers said. "Accordingly, prior to using 'Barracuda' at any events, we paid for and obtained all necessary licenses."Copyright law may not be on the Wilsons' side as the song is licensed for public performance under a blanket fee paid by the venue to ASCAP, the firm that collects royalties on behalf of composers and copyright owners.Yep, the sorts of sports arenas where these events are typically held pay the same sot of blanket fee (though substantially larger, based on seating capacity) that bars and restaurants with jukeboxes do.Hold your rally at a public park, and you ain't covered for the use; this is one of the reasons why Mellencamp's "Pink Houses" suit against Bush I was successful, but maybe not the only reason.
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Re: They Call Her Barracuda

Post by rld » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:15 am

I'm not sure what your point is.Mine is, if this statement is true... "Accordingly, prior to using 'Barracuda' at any events, we paid for and obtained all necessary licenses." it's not being used without permission, nor is being "stolen".

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Re: They Call Her Barracuda

Post by sgs4u » Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:55 am

Sept 17, 2008, 2:15pm, rld wrote:I'm not sure what your point is.Mine is, if this statement is true... "Accordingly, prior to using 'Barracuda' at any events, we paid for and obtained all necessary licenses." it's not being used without permission, nor is being "stolen".RLD, I don't yet believe that statement was true. Could you show me where you saw that all those songs were used with permission? My research showed me they didn't, or that they didn't even know what proper permission was required. And if they were used with proper permission, wouldn't they still be using them? I wouldn't care if it was Obama's camp who did it, either. So please don't think my post was about Republican bashing. To me, a political campaign using a "hit" song to promote their candidate is like kissing babies. All show, manipulative crap, that isn't about issues. When I vote, I do my best to make it about what I believe in. I don't want to hear a song I love being pumped into my head while some candidate smiles and tells me why I shouldn't vote for their competition. So when I see a songwriter getting pissed that a political party has started using their song without permission, I side with the PRO's and Musicians. They call it stealing. If you borrow someone's car and go for a ride in it, without asking, it's also stealing. My views expressed here, certainly aren't posted as representative of Taxi's, songwriters in general or anyone else for that matter. Sometimes I just blurt out what I believe in. Some people agree, and lots don't. I'm gonna leave this thread alone now, 'cause I'm quite positive I don't want to get into any political discussions.

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Re: They Call Her Barracuda

Post by flood » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:14 pm

If a convention center pays a license fee to ascap, bmi, and sesac, they can play any song those companies rep.Simple as that.No research needed, no extra licenses needed.The tv or radio broadcasts that result from those rallys are covered under fair use. It is, after all, a newsworthy event.Whether the writer or performing artist disagrees with the campaign using the song is of no legal importance whatsoever. They agreed to let ascap, bmi or sesac handle royalties from such venues.When artists make a stink, though, that is a sizable public relations problem.Either way, there has been no theft or infringement, provided the venue or the campaign has obtained licensing from bmi ascap or sesac.

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