return over the title, what you think, bit harsh???

ChristopherSwain · Post by **ChristopherSwain** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:37 am

Casey we all think our songs are great with a killer hooks, so thats bad advice hahaha

rnrmachine · Post by **rnrmachine** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:08 am

I have listened to Chris's music and no doubt there is a natural talent there. I think him and I just grew up liking to much music that didn't follow the rules of Hook and Title matching. hehe

Chris, I am confident you will find ways to be yourself while conforming to standards without even coming close to being a sell out. I remember a friend telling me once... "Journey is such a sell out, they have a video game now." My response was... I don't friggin care how much my music wasn't considered a sell out or how strongly I felt about not selling out. IF someone wanted to make a video game about my band?... There would be a video game about my band!! ROFL

I loved Journey soo much growing up, if being that good of a freakin band meant being a sell out... my opinion was... where's the line for sell outs? I wanna get in it because they ROCK!!!

Rob

Len911 · Post by **Len911** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:13 pm

Chris, I think you've already mentioned the lyrics and having to "settle" for them. I'm going to be harsher and say that it doesn't matter what the title is in this song because the lyrics don't complement the song at all imo. You have such a soulful and well produced song with exceptional vocals. If the lyrics are going to be incoherent, they should at least follow the emotion conveyed in the song and not impede it. If the lyrics were an instrument, it would be as if they were out of tune. In a soul song you have to say what you really feel and not try to encrypt those feelings. Save the encryption for a folk ballad,imo.

rnrmachine · Post by **rnrmachine** » Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:50 pm

Len911 wrote:...Save the encryption for a folk ballad,imo.

ROFLMAO....

Too funny.

Rob

Kolstad · Post by **Kolstad** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:29 am

This should be a simple case. The title is obviously misleading the potential buying audience. An industry person with experience suggests you change it appropriately.

If you don't do it, they will pick one of the other 1000 songs that's excactly about this subject at this particular moment. All kick ass produced.

If you don't want to deliver that, Christopher, you are wasting peoples time. This is not about this one song, it's about developing relationships in the music industry. Building trust ect., like in any other job. If you are coming off hardheaded like this, for no good reason like this, you are not just blowing this song but your whole prescence in the music industry. Contrary to what it may look like, it's a small world.

This is being difficult, and not being real about music and business. You get one chance with this song, blow that, and you'll spend the rest of your life rewriting it again and again for deaf ears.

You don't have to listen to me, I'm nobody, but you are a guy with opportunities. Why would you engage in submitting songs to people, and then blow off the deal for a reason like this? It's not remotely comprehensible, for the 'artistic' reasons you try to reason with. This song is not an artistic song at all, it's a simple pop diddy, written a million times before, that might end up somewhere because of good production, like so many other songs these days. That's excactly why the relationships are so important.

Music supervisors can get similar great songs from anyone. Give them a reason to pick you..

ChristopherSwain · Post by **ChristopherSwain** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:20 am

thesongcabinet wrote:
You don't have to listen to me, I'm nobody, but you are a guy with opportunities. Why would you engage in submitting songs to people, and then blow off the deal for a reason like this? It's not remotely comprehensible, for the 'artistic' reasons you try to reason with. This song is not an artistic song at all, it's a simple pop diddy, written a million times before, that might end up somewhere because of good production, like so many other songs these days. That's excactly why the relationships are so important.

Music supervisors can get similar great songs from anyone. Give them a reason to pick you..

Magne, I am not that stupid to not change a title, that was quite an educational return, I asked my fans/likes wall on facebok and they all said "Your Love" too, so I would change it to that, although I may re-write the lyrics as their are too many weaknesses.

we all live in a different reality, this one got me off guard. Particularly when you have a song called MY Love and Don'k Ask is a bit more original.

One whether a song is aristic, we will have to disagree on that, no matter how goood or bad a song is, there is only one of that song and to some of us, songs really mean something more then a diddy.

ChristopherSwain · Post by **ChristopherSwain** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:31 am

rnrmachine wrote:I have listened to Chris's music and no doubt there is a natural talent there. I think him and I just grew up liking to much music that didn't follow the rules of Hook and Title matching. hehe

Chris, I am confident you will find ways to be yourself while conforming to standards without even coming close to being a sell out. I remember a friend telling me once... "Journey is such a sell out, they have a video game now." My response was... I don't friggin care how much my music wasn't considered a sell out or how strongly I felt about not selling out. IF someone wanted to make a video game about my band?... There would be a video game about my band!! ROFL

I loved Journey soo much growing up, if being that good of a freakin band meant being a sell out... my opinion was... where's the line for sell outs? I wanna get in it because they ROCK!!!

Rob

oh god yes, one of my favourite songs is "Love spreads" by "the stone roses" and the title its the first line of the song. To me that is what makes it cool. But Stone Roses were so big and powerful in the UK they could do what ever they wanted.

and do any of the lyrics make sense no imao none.

"Let me put you in the picture, let me show you what I mean
The messiah is my sister, ain't no king man, she's my queen"

ChristopherSwain · Post by **ChristopherSwain** » Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:35 am

Len911 wrote:Chris, I think you've already mentioned the lyrics and having to "settle" for them. I'm going to be harsher and say that it doesn't matter what the title is in this song because the lyrics don't complement the song at all imo. You have such a soulful and well produced song with exceptional vocals. If the lyrics are going to be incoherent, they should at least follow the emotion conveyed in the song and not impede it. If the lyrics were an instrument, it would be as if they were out of tune. In a soul song you have to say what you really feel and not try to encrypt those feelings. Save the encryption for a folk ballad,imo.

thanks for feedback

Do you think the whole song in general or just sections?

your probably right about encrypting, I do, do that

P.S. why would a folk ballad be encrypted?

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