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Re: Enlighten me please!

Post by TechNoiZ » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:33 pm

Its another case of using 'Stylistically Off Target' to mean 'No problem with the track its just not what I'm looking for'.

I'd much rather get a return saying that than having the former and then spending time wondering what was wrong with my interpretation of the listing. Nothing was wrong with it - the songs just didn't, to quote Casey, 'float the music sup's boat'. Why can't they just have a box to tick to indicate that.

I wonder if these would have been forwarded if it had gone through a screener given how difficult it is to find the Beatle-esque in them compared to others that were returned (no criticism of the quality of the 2 tracks intended - just their apparent oblique relationship to the listing compared to the other unsuccessful submissions).

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Re: Enlighten me please!

Post by Casey H » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:08 pm

TechNoiZ wrote:I wonder if these would have been forwarded if it had gone through a screener...
Hi Tech :D
What difference would that make? In the end, it would be the music sup who would decide what works and doesn't work for him/her. A taxi screener forward would have been meaningless anyway if the music sup didn't think it was what they wanted.

It's harder for Taxi to be as rigid with how the form is filled out when end users are doing the screening as opposed to a Taxi screener. We are lucky to have a shot at a music sup directly listening. From my POV, when the end user screens themeselves, I'd be fine with just Y/N and no checkboxes. Most listing party folks (publishers, music sups, film/TV library owners) don't feel they are in the business of critique-ing and giving feedback. (There are exceptions)

I'm disappointed about the return (that the sup didn't say, "Wow! This is the one!") and I don't think the listing party described what they wanted as well as I would have hoped... but it is what it is. Write, submit, forget...

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Re: Enlighten me please!

Post by ShadowaterMusic » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:40 pm

Casey H wrote: Hi Tech :D
What difference would that make? In the end, it would be the music sup who would decide what works and doesn't work for him/her. A taxi screener forward would have been meaningless anyway if the music sup didn't think it was what they wanted.
I think his point was that a screener would be unlikely to forward the two songs because they aren't what most people would consider 'Beatlesque'. That's a comment on genre/style, not quality. This means that the music supervisor who, in this case, wanted to go further with the tracks would have never heard them.

The nice thing here, though, is that, presumably, the supervisor knew he/she needed to be more hands on to get to what they wanted, so they bypassed the filter.
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Re: Enlighten me please!

Post by TechNoiZ » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:11 pm

Hi Casey and Shadowatermusic :D

I think that a lot of people on here DO take a forward as meaning something. It means your interpretation of the listing was correct . There are countless threads on this board involving people questioning why their interpretation is 'off' - especially when the only reasons given are the catch-all 'stylistically off target' and 'not broadcast quality' - both of which can be moulded to fit any reason whatsoever.

It worries me slightly that so many people on here argue for ignoring the feedback, accept that it is in many cases meaningless and promote the write, submit, forget formula BECAUSE the filter can be, in some cases, flawed and the reason given so arbitrary.

I've always found that no feedback is better than misplaced feedback. It gets ever harder to sit down and work on a listing (that is write music for Taxi submissions rather than write music in general) after being told continuously that your previous attempts were so wrong you weren't even in the right style or genre with your submissions.

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