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Re: NOT renewing membership in 2012

Post by Kelil » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:16 pm

mrwonderful wrote:Re Not Renewing in 2012

Hi folks, I’m looking for input. After six years of Taxi membership I’m thinking of not renewing, despite the almost frantic reminders I get from them that it’s That Time…

I abhor the cliché ‘thinking outside the Box’ (it’s SO ‘Inside the box’). But in my honest opinion the box of the Taxi mindset has gotten rather small, even as my view, perspective, and experience of the Biz has ever-expanded.

There are other ways to ‘get there’ (including for me the up-and-coming publisher I acquired this year). Michael Laskow himself used to tout, before his hard-sell approach became the new m.o., that Taxi was only the ‘second-best’ way to get there. I must agree…as we’ve all seen, (with the Taxi Rally experience as a microcosmic example) the personal touch beats out impersonal every time. And frankly, Taxi for me has been disappointingly most IMpersonal.

I know at least one of the screeners personally, from the days he worked for the big publisher that handled my catalog. (I don’t know which number he is.) I had to wonder, ‘They use HIM for a screener?” I met up with another at a mentor lunch table (the one I paid 30 bucks for) and thought ‘THIS guy’s a MENTOR?’ I knew this fella from my hometown as a certifiable…well, I won’t say. There's more to the story but let's move on...

I’ve been at this for years and am hardly what you’d call entry level. The Rallies I’ve attended have been quite valuable. Why WOULDN’T one go? It’s about the ONLY thing that makes the $200 fee worth it…but I find the focus of Taxi has morphed (as the Biz itself has) from a focus of connection to one of education. The workshops are great, but after this, my sixth Rally, I’m finding them a bit redundant. That ‘magic-bullet’, the CONNECTION (and as-ever the ongoing experience of writing writing writing) is what I REALLY need. Is this something Taxi could yet deliver?

I lingered in LA after the Rally to hook up with an old friend, a former bandmate, who’s made good out there. I won’t mention names but he’s REAL busy composing for Network and Cable, and some film. (He mentioned that he partners occasionally with one of the big ‘draws’ at the recent Rally.) He wondered aloud to me why I’m not yet his ‘competition’. We hung out for like 3 hours, and in that 3 hours I think I got another 3 DAYS’ (another Rally’s) worth of information. There’s that Personal Touch again…

Maybe there is another way to do this. As we all know, it’s more than persistence and doing exceptional work. There IS timing and there IS luck (if you don’t think so, just imagine YOUR radio-ready CD being THE one Craig pulls out of the bin – with HUNDREDS in there - at one of the big panels! I've also heard it straight from the panelists themselves). I've gotten a good number of forwards, ONE little deal, and certainly enjoy the energy and camaraderie at the Rallies…but – pardon the vulgarity - I’d like to get the CHECK. Maybe it’s time to ‘put a little spit on the quarter’, change tack, and get off this Taxi thing, at least for a minute.

Can someone throw in a convincing argument one way or the other?

Sincerely, Jordy
Hi Jordy. Sometimes Taxi works for some and others it dont depending on their own personal connections. All I can say is it's a good idea to have both the personal connection and the connections taxi provides through their listings. Retain the best of both worlds and make as much connections as one can possibly make.

I dont think the taxi or music game is about luck, I think that its about the right song along with hard work thats thrown in it to get there. I'd agree that at the moment, with all the money we pump into our songs for studio time plus the amount of our membership and submissions we make, that a profitable return is HIGHLY unlikely. Unless you have a catalogue of over 500 tunes that are placed with different libraries and being placed in different film/tv shows on a continuos basis, it can not be said that a self employed living can be made out of it. The same goes for those of us who dont list with taxi and manage to get a few placements outside of taxi.

So the submissions we make is more of a hobbie than anything else bar those on here who DO make a living out of placements. But I've yet to meet a taxi member who does on this forum.

I do submit to film/tv listings but I do it for the crack and a bit of fun. I also submit to ad agencies because the 25k is def something I could make a living out of a year.

My unprofressional mind though is here for the rare and scarce record deal. And I've never been as close to a record company before in my life and Taxi walked me right into their office and I got one forward for record deal in the last week and feel like I've accomplished something. It was forwarded by the co-owner of the listing company thats cool that have the owner of the record company dig your songs and forward you and take you home for consideration.

It's a game of patience with taxi but once the foot is in the door its in the door. And if ever I do reach my goal I'll never forget Taxi and even plan ( with their permission ) to put their logo on my new EP cover to help spread the good business Michael has created.

So...dont give up on taxi, as in, dont burn the bridge for another. Use both bridges and build something greater.

Stephen :)

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Re: NOT renewing membership in 2012

Post by mrwonderful » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:36 pm

TheFid wrote:Chuck,

Appreciate the comments, Chuck...very enlightened!

I'm much less concerned with agreement than I am about clarity, and about helping. I don't see how telling a person "You're living the consequences of your bad decisions" (paraphrasing, of course) is helpful. Again, if a person is momentarily disgusted or irritated, that doesn't mean he or she made bad decisions, or even that they're "failing", it's likely that the person's process is just in process. Vance & Tracey said it best when they stated that it took them YEARS before they started to get the results they wanted. I think if enough people would have said to Thomas Edison, Albert Einstein, and other great people, during times of being discouraged, "You're making bad choices, you need to change your approach or you're going to continue to fail", and other such useless Pop Pscyh nonsense, maybe at some point they would have decided that they were stupid and inept, and said the hell with it. So, when I see somebody who is having a hard time of it, instead of going at them with my finger in their face, along with self serving, discouraging words, I'll try to offer them something useful and realistic - not coddling and "positive" (I really hate that grossly overused word), but realistic.

I'm here trying to help people like Jordy, and everybody involved, which is why I made points on both sides of the subject. I'll continue to do that, some aren't gonna like my ideas & beliefs, so what's new? :mrgreen:
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Re: NOT renewing membership in 2012

Post by mrwonderful » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:51 pm

Well, I must say I'm pretty much blown away by your kind words, Allen. Especially after spending a few minutes at your website just now, and enjoying some of the meditation music there, I can say I DO hope to run into you at the next Rally. We will have lots to talk about.
Just this year I discovered the value of weighing in on the Forum thing (yeah, I know I'm a little slow on the uptake, but better late than never!). Thanks for the encouragement, I have renewed not only my membership but my confidence in a dazzling 2012. Bless you, and I'll see you around-the-farm!
best, Jordy
allends wrote:For the record, it wasn't hard to search for Jordy's music because he signed one of his earlier posts under the name George "Jordy" Wallace and this name can be for on ReverbNation here:

http://www.reverbnation.com/georgejordywallace

The reason why I post this here rather than let Jordy speak for himself is because I'm enthusiastic about his work. Jordy is awesome! Jordy has a lot of experience and has produced some great sounding tunes. He appears to be a mature person who I would expect to take life seriously, so when I re-read his post about not wishing to renew with Taxi, I now have a more informed interpretion of what he is saying.

After looking into Jordy's background, I have every reason to expect that his intention is to take the bull by the horns in 2012 rather than wait for things to happen.

Good luck Jordy!
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Re: NOT renewing membership in 2012

Post by mrwonderful » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:57 pm

You got it, man, thanks for the encouragement. As I told my wife the other day after she'd asked me what my choice was gonna be, I said I was going to renew the membership and 'Give 'em Hell, Harry'; she liked hearing that.
all the best, see you at the Rally! Here's to a brand new year indeed!
Jordy
BruceBrown wrote:Jordy,
I'm glad you decided to renew.
It's a brand new year.
Kill 'em with every submission.
Good luck.
Bruce
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Re: NOT renewing membership in 2012

Post by mrwonderful » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:05 pm

Yeah thanks...I call it my little 'Gettysburg piece', inspired by a recent visit there. VERY powerful land, it is, and beautiful too.
best, Jordy
ps...if you click on the lyrics box, you'll get a little rundown, since there are no lyrics. (This applies to all my instrumental tracks on Reverb Nation AND Taxi posted titles.)
shoodBworkin wrote:Listening to 'Hallowed Ground'. What a lovely track! Well done, sir!
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Re: NOT renewing membership in 2012

Post by llama » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:17 pm

Hey Jordy. You've got some great pieces of music... I like the attitude. "Rejoin and give 'em hell"... Well at least great great pieces that can't be refused. Best of luck to ya.

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Re: NOT renewing membership in 2012

Post by mojobone » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:16 am

@ Jordy, I'm more pleased than you can know, that my speculation was off-base, though I don't think the energy was entirely wasted. ;) I hope to make your acquaintance at the next Rally. :D
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Re: NOT renewing membership in 2012

Post by mrwonderful » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:15 pm

So, thanks everyone, it means a lot to me that there is such a community here! I will plan to make much more of the resources you all so generously provide.

To sum up, I will stay on-board. The adjustments (I thought of this earlier today) will be made from INSIDE the system/Taxi; minor adjustments may be all that it takes. Some changes, for me, would be:

1) Much of what I first submitted (6-now-7 years ago) was pre-existing stuff already in the can, material from my own numerous album projects both vocal/songs and instrumental. As time went on I cut things that were pieces for which there seemed to be a recurring demand; I played a hunch that certain types of listings tend to come back around every so often. Sooner or later you're gonna see another listing looking for a Beatles soundalike, for example, so my song 'Lucky Day' was born and sure enough a listing showed up I thought it was perfect for (turned out it wasn't...Lucky Day is still looking for a Home). You can also count on there being an occasional call for funny, whimsical stuff so I keep a cache of that around, also the orchestral/ film genre which I'm getting better and better at (I LOVE doing that kind of thing!) is REALLY opening up. I enjoy working in SEVERAL genres, just finding my way here...up next for me is a HARD rock thing followed by a dark, brooding soundscape followed by a rock/orchestral hybrid kinda thing followed by a quiet combination of strings and ???...and so on.

I'm planning to try writing DIRECTLY to a listing, more at the drop of a hat, and stay very close to what they seem to want. This is facilitated these days MOSTLY because my turnaround time has quickened and, strangely, even with these 'bigger' orchestral things, the arrangements are coming out simpler and more concise...easier to mix, and given they're all now in the 2-3 minute range, the time it takes for one playback is shortened.

2) I want to do more interacting with folks outside of the panels and workshops during the Rallies. This means overcoming a certain shyness I feel sometimes (this might have been what Tracy and Vance were talking about), although you might not detect it to see me in a room with people. I'm a 'tech' person more than a 'biz' person which means I feel sometimes like I'm REALLY at a loss trying to understand the language and inherent logic in a 'biz' kind of conversation (and in the 'thinking-model' used by the deeply computer-savvy experts as well) ESPECIALLY in a noisy, crowded bar where the NUANCE of what's being said is easily lost in the sonic wash. (I'm not hearing-impaired, it's just the way my musical ear processes sound.) So I wind up being a little slow on the uptake and that's when I have trouble holding up my end of what WANTS to be a meaningful conversation. Gotta work on that...

3) The LAST for now, GOT to get outta here and do other things.This time around I WILL make more of the Forum community, it kept coming up over and over in the Rally (and also in my subsequent notes). In fact, I might say I'm done with this topic, it's time to address other topics...so keep an eye out, I'll be around. I look forward to acting on a suggestion to post a returned track, for example, to get peer feedback. I have a hunch that, with due respect to the screeners, the responses I potentially get from YOU-all might be AT LEAST as valuable.

Thank you all for such generosity with your comments, and I'll 'see you around the farm'

And HERE'S to a dazzling 2012! best to all...

jordy
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Re: NOT renewing membership in 2012

Post by rnrmachine » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:26 pm

I feel ya Jordy... around people, I tend to be shy as well. It's more important to me NOT to come across as pushy or having a large ego then to force myself to become involved in a group. I have occasionally, throughout the years, found myself the subject of a bashing... when I am correct but the people just don't want to admit it, or worse can't even see it.

Also, don't ever stop questioning things, evaluating where you are at. It's what the best people always do. IF people didn't... we'd all still live in caves, believing the world is flat... let alone the earth goes around the sun and not vice versa... so imho. You only need a few minor tweaks to be successful. BUT remember, there's more people trying than there are gigs... it's the nature of the beast.

Good Luck in ALL you do!!

Rob
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Re: NOT renewing membership in 2012

Post by mojobone » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:10 pm

Interesting. I should probably thank all those folks who made me feel that I was less than nothing, on account of falling outside the norm. In a manner of speaking, they provided a certain amount of incentive, without which I'd never be where I am, today. ;)
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