Lo-Fi Folk, is it?

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Re: Lo-Fi Folk, is it?

Post by Casey H » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:34 am

Burt
I wasn’t able to listen on good headphones or speakers (laptop speakers only). I agree with the comments that the vocal volume could be more even and a bit lower and the keys in there seem out of place—might be better without or replaced with something else.

The feel of the song as a SONG is great and fits. I love the chorus and its metaphor! :D

Ignoring production, I think the lyrics are a weak point that might be a show stopper. You have a lot of images thrown in (maybe too many) but sometimes they don’t all work together or are clunky.

The song opens with:
>> Broken glass in breaking waves
>> That’s how you wore upon me
That sounds like a negative as to how she affected you but the rest of the song is about all the good she did. It doesn’t make sense.

>> You blunt what’s sharp so I don’t cut
Clunky, non-conversational

>> And brought the rust and green grass
>> To overgrow my sin
>> Held my shaking through the war
Not sure how “rust” is a good thing but I may be missing something.
“Overgrow my sin”: Non-conversational and awkward
“Held my shaking”: You can STOP someone’s shaking, but you really can’t HOLD it.

Those were just examples. At some point, I’d re-write this song, keeping the great chorus but re-doing the rest. You don’t want a hodge-podge of metaphors and forced rhymes,.. needs something more cohesive as a whole.

Also, I wouldn’t open with a line that has the word “waves” in it, I’d save that word for the chorus. Makes the chorus more effective…

Best of luck!
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Burt Crow wrote:

A lot of Waves on the Shore

1.
Broken glass in breaking waves
That’s how you wore upon me
You blunt what’s sharp so I don’t cut
Made me a thing of beauty
That chases light in the dawn

Ch
Now that’s a lot of waves, a lot of waves
That’s a lot of waves on the shore

2.
Bleeding rain on a battlefield
You washed the dirt of my skin
And brought the rust and green grass
To overgrow my sin
Held my shaking through the war

Ch

Bridge
Drowning in sands of time
You raised me up on your tide

Ch (rpt)

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Re: Lo-Fi Folk, is it?

Post by Burt Crow » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:19 am

Thanks Casey

On lyrics; this one came out very quick after a day on the beach collecting worn glass on the beach - it seemed a great metaphor for a positive, but not always easy relationship? The ambiguity is intentional, but if it is getting in the way then it serves no end.

Will have a look at lyrics again as I intend to re-record vocals to get balance a bit better in final section. Also looking to find more complimentary instrument to counter point. I just upload latest version to Taxi site below; with dropped vocals and have added high piano part.

I get the stuff done for the deadlines, but it is always just a couple weeks of settling - but it is all work in progress and I really appreciate all the feedback.

I've noticed that a lot of people get material sold that was often written for previous briefs and then developed over time.

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Re: Lo-Fi Folk, is it?

Post by sedge » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:22 am

Hi Burt, I like this tune!!

it does feel a tad country to my general reaction ears, rather than folk ?

I don't know why I am thinking this, is it the structure, the slow pick, the chords , the vocal style ? The 'song' - wish i could say "why"

But yes, if I had to bet on one or the other I would bet Country.

Listing aside, to me this is a fab fab fab mood setter for a film.

Not sure on the bridge?? Your vox comes out a little too 'hot' - Loud ?

Hope I said some good stuff!

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Re: Lo-Fi Folk, is it?

Post by treesbygb » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:38 am

Hi Burt,
love the song and your voice, the chorus/refrain is great, a great image, a real keeper.
For me , the thing that stands out as negative is your singing accent, it seems too much of a drawl and distracts me from the quality of your voice, which is, as I've said, fabulous!
Please feel free to ignore as it's just my personal reaction!!
Look forward to hearing the song develop.
Cheers
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Re: Lo-Fi Folk, is it?

Post by eeoo » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:41 pm

Cool, dark tune here, I like it! I agree that the vocal is pretty hot and some of your inflections make it hard to understand the lyrics, if I wasn't reading them I wouldn't have understood many of the lines. Also a couple of pitch issues. As with all songs, the lead vocal has to sell it but this one is well worth refining!

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Re: Lo-Fi Folk, is it?

Post by dwarkentin » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:00 pm

Hey Burt and Burpo (sounds like an alt country duet!),
Thanks for the comments. I agree a bridge would be a good addition. I never really "finished " this song, as I never suspected I would find an opportunity to pitch it. Maybe needs a little more time invested.
Hey Burpo, I love your very introspective tracks. Right This Wrong is my fav of the three. Ever consider adding some type of bass instrument? It would really fill out the sound.
Let's hope we all get forwards on this one.
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Re: Lo-Fi Folk, is it?

Post by dwarkentin » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:06 pm

Oops, sorry, I didn't mean to hijack this thread! A thousand pardons!
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