I Need Help understanding what I need
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Casey, I can do both. I have had a vocal coach for the last 3 years. Vocal training is great but it won't help you understand how to apply it to genres of music.
I've been reading books articles and watched numerous videos on audio production for many years. I've worked with Garageband and Logic Pro for about 10 years. I'll check out Soundgym. Honestly, I can read and take courses for the rest of my life but at some point I have to apply the knowledge and make my mistakes. Absolutely, book knowledge is essential before practical knowledge. Making mistakes and having people point them out is also a great form of education. That's what I love about Taxi and this forum. There are a lot of moving parts to this process.
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I've been reading books articles and watched numerous videos on audio production for many years. I've worked with Garageband and Logic Pro for about 10 years. I'll check out Soundgym. Honestly, I can read and take courses for the rest of my life but at some point I have to apply the knowledge and make my mistakes. Absolutely, book knowledge is essential before practical knowledge. Making mistakes and having people point them out is also a great form of education. That's what I love about Taxi and this forum. There are a lot of moving parts to this process.
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[Telefunkin, this is such awesome advice that I am going to put your 6 points into a sticky note and pin it on my computer!
Very Very Helpful!!!! I have watched a lot of the Joe Guilder videos. I tend to be a little right brained, which is a problem
when you are trying to analyze the individual components. I do understand the science of frequencies. I know what they sound like
and how they should apply to different instruments, however, I tend to be too heavy handed with them. If the recipe calls for salt
I might use a table spoon instead of a pinch. That's the practical side of things. I'll read your 6 points every time I mix now
in order to stay focused. I've got the sauce on the stove cooling off and I appreciate you taking a spoonful now and then
to let me know if it needs more salt or if I have to start over because I've already used too much.
Thank you,
Stu
Very Very Helpful!!!! I have watched a lot of the Joe Guilder videos. I tend to be a little right brained, which is a problem
when you are trying to analyze the individual components. I do understand the science of frequencies. I know what they sound like
and how they should apply to different instruments, however, I tend to be too heavy handed with them. If the recipe calls for salt
I might use a table spoon instead of a pinch. That's the practical side of things. I'll read your 6 points every time I mix now
in order to stay focused. I've got the sauce on the stove cooling off and I appreciate you taking a spoonful now and then
to let me know if it needs more salt or if I have to start over because I've already used too much.
Thank you,
Stu
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I like "Tune Doctor". I just subscribed to Guy Michelmore's Youtube group.
This looks like a great resource for songwriting knowledge.
Thank You Cosmcdolphin.
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I tried the Soundgym test and scored poorly. I think that I will try this on a monthly basis. Thankyou for the suggestion, CaseyCasey H wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:11 amAnd/or seek out collaborators.cosmicdolphin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:38 amHonestly I think you'd be better off investing the money in some training instead of re-upping the Taxi membership, whether that's a course in recording / audio production , vocal coaching, a songwriting courses or something like Soundgym for training your ears
As much as folks can help on the forum it's no replacement for direct one to one tuition with an expert. Get the foundations sorted.
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Would just like to say that these discussions are helpful to others on the same path, so thank you for starting this thread, Stu!
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I think you know this, but just to be clear. I'm not saying collaboration is the ONLY way. It's one way. It can be done in parallel to your continued learning if you choose to do that. Nothing mutually exclusive.
Good luck!
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I think you know this, but just to be clear. I'm not saying collaboration is the ONLY way. It's one way. It can be done in parallel to your continued learning if you choose to do that. Nothing mutually exclusive.
Good luck!

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Yup, I understand. I agree, collaboration would be an important option to use. I'm going to see how I can ease my way not that. Just our conversation in this thread alone
has taught me quite a few things. Thank you for the suggestion of signing up for Soundgym. I wouldn't have known about it if I had not started this thread and had you not
responded. I also understand that it won't give me sound engineer ears over night but if I start now, I'll get there sooner than if I don't do it at all. I am grateful for you advice.
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Stu, there's a lot to like on this. Clever lyrics for one. And I think the vocal performance was pretty good actually, just a little buried in reverb. Telefunken did a thorough job of analyzing, but I would just add that the lead guitar part is overly repetitive to my ears, lacks pocket and feel, and the guitar tone sounds very early 50's, like when the electric guitar was first being used for rock and roll/blues. If that's what you were aiming for, then cool, you nailed it, but if we're looking for something a bit more modern sounding, the tone could use some attitude/drive/crunch.
As for pocket, feels like the lead guitar was a little out of sync with the 'band' here and there. Like he's on stage and had a few beers, and maybe tripped over a cable or something (I speak from experience).
If you're interested, I know a guy does great mixing for a very reasonable price, and I have occasionally lucked out and played the odd decent blues guitar lick myself from time to time.
Good luck with this!
As for pocket, feels like the lead guitar was a little out of sync with the 'band' here and there. Like he's on stage and had a few beers, and maybe tripped over a cable or something (I speak from experience).
If you're interested, I know a guy does great mixing for a very reasonable price, and I have occasionally lucked out and played the odd decent blues guitar lick myself from time to time.
Good luck with this!
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