Why was Sgt. Peppers such a huge album?

[hookstownbrown]

Quote:Is it just me or does that sound a bit perverted? It's just you, Mani...I'm not perverted at all.I'm just ever-so-slightly twisted... but in a clockwise direction...BTW... Do you have a sister?

[hookstownbrown]

Now wait just a dang minute here... I have to disagree with all the production "firsts" that the Beatles are responsible for... Why?Because... That's why... When an engineer has super-talent to work with and a franchise as big as the Beatles, production techniques amount to as much as a comma in a paragraph.George Martin could've farted into a Radio Shack condenser, played it back in reverse at 1/3 speed, pinched Yoko until she squeaked, fed the sum through a cracked plate reverb and made engineering history.The fact is that the control room would have still stunk and Paul, George and Ringo would have cringed while John smiled at Yoko's annoying screech! I get engineering ideas all the time... Same as everyone else who does sound... Give me Brittney Spears to work with and I'll be doing "Mix" interviews...Believe me, at a certain level, the only difference between "off-the-wall" engineering ideas and "innovative" ideas is the talent of the artist you work with... JM2

[hookstownbrown]

Hey Katy,What kinds of jazz did you listen to?I was into Chick Corea and Ernie Watts, etc... Fusion for quite a few years... Jean Luc Ponty, Andreus Vollenweider and such...Have you ever listened to Jeff Beck's Wired cd?Classical?Although it's been years... Bach's fugues... Much Mozart, Tchaicovsky... izzat how ya spell Tchaicovsky? People really don't know what they are missing if they haven't heard the 1812 Overture totally cranked through a quality sound system.

[katy]

Holy cripes! You're not suggesting that George Martinwas simply an "engineer", are you? And, you're notsuggesting that the fab 4 had no input into thatproduction, are you??? Horn? Yup! I've always had a penchant for bands withhorns. I actually used to play the trumpet, but I mustsay, although I had a great sound, I never developedmy emboucher very well because of the time neededfor practicing. My Dad was a horn player, music teacher,and conductor, and so was my sister. So we heard abunch of classical and baroque music growing up, ofcourse, plus musical theatre, big band, and such. My ownpassion, aside from my family, was listening to R&B. When I became the jazz "renegade" of the family, I tended to be drawn to listening mostly to horns and keyboards. I liked straight-ahead jazz and even dixieland and such, but I also got into listening to a bunch of live fusion here in LA. I met Winton Marsalis before he became well-known (in Seattle) and a number of local players here in town. After that, I became very interested in Afro-Cuban and Brazilliaan jazz and would go out to hear that live in town whenever I could. I was also highly impressed by Quincey Jones,and I'd listen to anything he was involved with, for sure.If we're talking about albums we have listened to themost number of times in our lives, mine would mostdefinitely be "Songs in the Key of Life". I wore the dangthing out. I didn't like country music at all, however I wasn't veryfamiliar with it. Now, I find that writing a good countrylyric is quite a challenge.But, I have to say, the Beatles were quite impressive (ofcourse). Even so, I spent much of my time listening toChicago and Santana, instead, (while my brothers were listening to Pink Floyd, etc. ouch!) (A guilty pleasure ofmine is the Stones.) Okay, enuf history.... where are some more Beatlestrivia questions? (I'd like to see if anyone can stumpBob, a notorious beatlemaniac! lol)

[ernstinen]

Quote: My Dad was a horn player, music teacher,and conductorHoly Cripes is right!My Dad was a brass guy (trumpet), music teacher, and conductor, too! How 'bout that! He also gigged on jazz piano.Ern

[katy]

Hey, maybe he's the same guy!!!! !!!!Was your Dad also the conductor of the Central ParkBand?lol

[katy]

Btw, my Dad's claim to "almost fame" was that he wasoffered the musical directorship of the original Broadway play, "Oklahoma". (According to family lore.) However, he had enlisted in the Army Air Force immediately before the opportunity came along. I wish he had had thechance to do the Broadway play.I don't think he had much of an affinity for the mop-tops!(cool segway back to the subject, eh?)

[hookstownbrown]

Quote:Posted by: katy Posted on: Jan 7th, 2005, 9:29pm Holy cripes! You're not suggesting that George Martinwas simply an "engineer", are you? And, you're notsuggesting that the fab 4 had no input into thatproduction, are you I'm suggesting that without the fab 4, George Martin would not be the icon that he is today...Think about it...And yep, in the truest sense of the word, George Martin was a sound engineer....Correct me if I'm wrong... All you Beatle-obsessives...

[katy]

Blasphemy, Hooks! Is that a joke or do you need some thorazine? What makes you think that if Sir George Martin hadn'thooked up with the Beatles, he would be obscure? He was initially a classical musician and worked withan orchestra. He also produced with many other major talents, including Billy Preston, Sting, Celine Dion, Stan Getz, Michael Jackson... and more.Aside from his producing, Martin was an orchestratorand wrote the orchestral score for the films A HardDays Night, Yellow Submarine, Live and Let Die, andone other. He also produced the music for the film Sgt.Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. (How's that for a segway back to the subject, Rock?)lol

[ernstinen]

Quote:I'm suggesting that without the fab 4, George Martin would not be the icon that he is today...Think about it...And yep, in the truest sense of the word, George Martin was a sound engineer....Correct me if I'm wrong... All you Beatle-obsessives... George Martin was a musical arranger and producer, who produced many other acts before the Beatles. The sound engineers at Abbey Road at the time were "scientists", wearing white coats and had a distinct protcol to follow. They had to produce and mix records according to certain acoustic/scientific rules. The Beatles broke all their rules over time, especially: How much treble you could add to a track; and how much bass you could add to a track. They challenged their engineers constantly. "Why can't we get the bass sound of Motown!"James Jamerson of Motown really affected Paul's approach to playing bass. Jamerson was a bass genius, and Paul was a sponge who learned from every medium. Eventually, Abbey Road engineers tried everything in the book, and shed their scientific ideas, courtesy of the Beatles' creativity.Ern