Are super human drums marketable?

[drcolossus02]

Quote:Dude... that's some great editing work there. You give BT a run for his large piles of money.I wish I could help you break in to the biz to do that sorta thing... 10 years ago you could'a cleaned up, but I'm not sure the pop market can support this kind of thing anymore. Of course, messing up someone's live drums is probably what you're thinking... Mute Math style...Do you only do drums? Do you write tracks too? I can see that stuff getting in libraries and commercials and whatnot.Regardless, nice work.Now, tell me all your tricks. HA HA! I'm guessing you get the pitch things happening by slicing so short that it's making a pitched wave when you put a bunch of them in line?Who's BT?How'd he get the large piles of money! Yeah I suppose I'm a bit late for the jungle IDM thing but I can apply these techniques to anything.Here's a Timbaland style thing I'm working on at the minute. Really rough demo but a good illustration.http://www.sendspace.com/file/wx23onIts encoded in really really low quality so none of you can steal it. My basic methods involve getting a breakbeat and layering while keeping the groove. I then get the groove template of it and convert it to a rex loop and cut it up into a couple of funky new rhythms .I then export it to Ableton Live and cut it up to make crazy shit and re-sample ad infinitum.Basically you use everything piece of soundwarping possible which is essentially:Pitch, Filter, Timestretch, Reverse, Flanging, Attack and Release.These are all organic ways to warp sound if you get me rather than effects.The trick is to stay creative. Try a million different things. And re-sample as much as you like. Anyway after F^cking around for a bit you have a nice notepad of drum beats like the one I posted here. You then put it into the music program you use to make music like Logic or something and use the appropriate beats for your song.What I'll do is I'll post up a in depth tutorial at some point.Yeah maybe my stuff would work in music libraries. I'll definitely look into it.I have a lot of tracks that aren't that strong but that would work as backround music sort of stuff.

[stick]

Very nice.Wow... I'm surprised you don't know BT... I think he sort of pioneered this sort of editing style back in the mid 90s. Remember 'NSync's "Pop"? All that drum editing stuff was him. Here's his site. Now he does big time film scoring and I guess performs as a solo artist/DJ type.

[stick]

Here's some current music of BT's... scroll down a little:http://www.myspace.com/btnetwork

[sgs4u]

Quote:Here's some current music of BT's... scroll down a little:http://www.myspace.com/btnetwork stick, This guy's stuff is incredible. Thanks for leading me and all of us towards the light at the end of the tunnel. Do you know of any more recent stuff he's currently involved in?

[stick]

Not really... I've never really be into his stuff, just had him on the radar since "Pop" days... I had a sample disk of loops he did... cool stuff. Well, it was cool then... heh heh.

[andreh]

Quote:Not really... I've never really be into his stuff, just had him on the radar since "Pop" days... I had a sample disk of loops he did... cool stuff. Well, it was cool then... heh heh. Brian Transeau (aka BT) is a genius, and a true pioneer. It's pretty rare that you hear a completely new, but still emotional and relevant, style of music arise these days - but he's done it.Beyond his own phenomenal releases, he's produced everyone from Seal to Madonna to N'Sync, and he's also scored several big-ticket films.You can pick up any music rag and find articles about him, and he's heavily endorsed. He's all over the place right now; not a has-been by any means.I've personally been influenced by him in my rock, electronic, and hiphop music, but I've never gone as far as he has (nor as "awesomely") with the depth of editing he does.Andre

[stick]

Oh yeah, totally... I know he's no has been... that's just where I "discovered" him, and haven't stayed with his stuff other than seeing his name popping up on some big film scores and whatnot.

[drcolossus02]

Man I just looked him up and I thinks hes really weak.Could you give me an example of something he done thats completely new.Because all I see is re-packaging. And also how can he claim to have invented the stutter?Thats like saying you invented the sound of a record slowing down or something surely.And also his music is bloody cheesy."BT is the creative force currently driving digital songwriting and soundscaping in its evolution into the audio-visual-spiritual art-form that will define and inspire the human narrative of the 21st Century. He is re-mastering the obsolete soundtrack of our late analog planet, reassembling from the chaos of smashed bytes blurring our sampled lives a new paradigm of beauty for This Binary Universe ."This is the future. Of audio-visual whatever to inspire a human narrative of the 21st century.Anyone who likes punk and electronic things should definitely download and watch this if you want your mind and musical universe blownhttp://www.bong-ra.com/video/bong-ra_lowlands2003.movSorry different strokes for different strokes and everything but I'm really allergic to this BT guy. I don't get the genius claims one bit. He just seems to be a pretty good producer/ pop song writer. Innovator I think not.

[stick]

Dude. That's fine if you don't dig what he does or how he markets himself, but you're in no position to call him "weak". You're here asking pretty basic questions about breaking into the the music industry. This is a guy who's been doing what you're doing for years and had a lot of success doing that and a whole lot of other things. Maybe you're not claiming to be original either, but so far what I've heard from you is a version of something BT's been doing for years, but he's also writing orchestral and electronic film scores and writing and producing pop hits for others. I'm certainly not out to engage in a flame war, I was merely trying to encourage you to develop your obvious talent by pointing you toward what others do in a similar vein.

[drcolossus02]

Nah fair enough. Im not saying his achievements are weak.Im saying as a listener my personal opinion is that his music is a bit derivative and boring.Also there is something in his christ-like promo photos that make me hate him irrationally. But I admit thats irrational.But as I said this is my opinion you are entitled to yours.