Is BroadJam after TAXI's Market Share?

[broadjammatt]

The last date that Taxi members will be able to submit to Taxi through Broadjam should currently be available on every members' logged in artist page. Casey is very close in his explanation. A summary of how this date was determined or more information if you don't have a date is available - just email Broadjam customer service.

[sgs4u]

Quote:When I joined both last October 2006, I thought that it was only a matter of time that this would happen. I wondered why TAXI would co-op with another service for it's deliveries. Of course, I have no idea what goes on behind closed doors...more inside details would be great yeah me too, it seemed like destined for a split, we'll see if it ever gets ugly.my main concern with the new Broadjam deliveries is finding out who they're delivering to, and how we get paid... you know the normal stuff. I guess I'll be getting a call from customer service tomorrow.nice new avatar shak,my buddy from Waikiki, his name is Billy Mendoza. Did you know him?steve

[jbeck]

About this thing with Broadjam...Back when I joined TAXI in Feb. I didn't both bother signing up with BJ...and I'm glad I did not at this point. However, I do not know all the pros/cons of BJ vs TAXI's new online service.imo TAXI/Michael L. seem to be always "progressive" in this business.... so it made perfect sense that at some point TAXI would expand it's services to be a more complete package to it's members.Of course, any transition takes time....

[guscave]

Quote:Quote:I checked this out last night. I can see where there is a conflict of interest between both companies. However as someone who really likes Taxi's service but currently can't come up with the membership fee, BJ's offer is a nice alternative.hmmm... I just read the "terms" of the BJ service - and here's what bothers me:* once sent, the receiving company (ie publ. comp.) has the right (!) to license your track, collect royalties etc - this is very uncommon, because I don't know to which TERM / under which contract my songs (automatically!!) would fall. how is the split? reversion clause? synch license split? etc.* the songs seems to go directly to the publisher - no pre-screening. In my experience, they will be floaded by crappy songs of hopefull amateurs. I once was a subscriber as a producer of such a service - I literaly received hundreds of songs, about 80-90% was totally crap. so what happened was: I didn't listen to any more songs and ignored their mails (generated "you have 40 new songs in your inbox"), and I think a busy supervisor, publisher etc will do the same.so I'm pretty unconvinced about that service, the first point I mentioned is the most important of course, but also the second point is important - who wants to blow out songs for 5 $ each if you don't know if it even got heard. a self-marketing way (google companies, ask if you can send a demo etc) is way better than that.martin I agree that the terms are a bit fuzzy, and as far as if anyone does listen to the songs you submit, well, I don't know of too many services that actually give you a 100% guarantee that someone did listen. Taxi says they do ( and I have no reason to doubt them), but it's pretty much a situation where you have to take their word for it. I'm sure though that just as Taxi won't risk their reputatin on giving false or unfair service to their members, BJ won't take that kind of chance either. I also agree that too open a door for so many submisions will create havoc. I don't know how BJ is going to get past that problem.As for the question about why taxi hadn't done a full service site like broadjam before, the answer is simple. Storage and Bandwidth. I'm sure when Taxi first decided to provide online submision and compared what they would have to pay in bandwidth alone, it probably made sense at the time to join up with an existing service like BJ. I guess we'll all just have to stay tuned to see what comes out of all this.

[Casey H]

OK, if you take a minute to step back from all of this... What's really relevant to YOU as a TAXI member?1. You will be getting a new electronic submission/hosting service for free and saving $50 a year. That might make the difference as to whether or not you can afford to join and possibly use Dispatch.2. If you paid Bjam for the taxi electronic submission service and they don't either give you what you paid for or refund you for what you didn't get, that's an issue and you should scream bloody murder. That would be a big problem for you as a paying taxi member. I haven't heard that anyone is getting ripped off this way yet.3. How Bjam performs their new service is really something to talk about with them. Asking them here what they do with your submissions has nothing to do with your TAXI membership and it's been said before that TAXI prefers not to use these boards to give airplay to competition. 4. Your TAXI submissions couldn't possibly be watered down by another music website taking on-line submissions. There are already scores of those and they don't have the business model that TAXI does which involved strong screening. Not saying those other things are good or bad (I like some of them)... just different.I'm guilty too of a lot of gossip-y conjecture and I'm starting to feel like it's "Who is Anna Nicole's daughter's father?". (My DNA sample is still in the lab ) CheersCasey

[prez]

I didn't sign up with Broadjam because their website templates were extra lame with a capital L...wait a minute? We're not talking about that are we?Movin on...Blessings.

[53mph]

Quote:Well Taxi is rolling out a free hosting service to all of its members. I think they're rolling it out to 500 members at a time, and I'm sure they'll tell us more about it shortly (I'm on the beta team for it, that's why I know).I even heard (and this is only a RUMOR) that BJ told Taxi they'd shut down Taxi members' ability to submit to listings unless Taxi gave BJ the submission fees...Which seems a little ...uhm, untoward, but like I said this is strictly a rumor and I'm sure Michael wouldn't let that happen.Well, Braodjam has dissabled the Taxi section so I can no longer submit to listings. Not just that but 2 years of crits have dissappeared without even a little bit of notice from either Taxi or Braodjam. So I've got no back-ups. As I don't live in the US submitting electronically was the better option, even if it cost me a subscription to Braodjam. Now I've just renewed that subscription to have that option taken away from me. I have to say that the way Taxi and Broadjam have dealt with this has certainly not been very nice for us members and I'm pretty upset that Braodjam has just taken my money without even informing me of any of this. I hope they have refund policies lined up or I'll be well F*d off.

[edteja]

I would imagine that since electronic submission was part of what was offered, if they take it away they will offer a refund. After all, they might have some disagreement with Taxi, but they won't want angry customers.

[mikehelms]

what they shut down the service... that's so uncool!! I have a friend who joined in Feb. just a month befor I did.. and nobody mentioned to him the changes coming up. and he bought into the whole package. And only because that's what was needed to forward to taxi... He is gonna be Pissed off!!!

[allends]

Quote:what they shut down the service... that's so uncool!! I have a friend who joined in Feb. just a month befor I did.. and nobody mentioned to him the changes coming up. and he bought into the whole package. And only because that's what was needed to forward to taxi... He is gonna be Pissed off!!!Don't be too alarmed yet. My submission history is still in tact and Broadjam stated in writing on my Broadjam profile page that I'll be able to make subissions until I'm up for renewal in December of 2007.So there's no need to panic IMHO, however, that doesn't mean I'm completely pleased: I only joined Broadjam so that I could submit to Taxi. I have no need for nor any interest in any of their other services.In Broadjam's defence, I must admit that I was willing to pay for Broadjam's services under the circumstances that existed at the time and now the only thing that has changed is that there is now another way to accomplish the same thing; Broadjam has not taken away anything that they promised to me when I joined. The only fault that I can lay firmly on Broadjam's shoulders is that they must have had a plan to steer me as a Taxi member to their new services when I signed up and I don't think that was ethical. For that reason alone I feel that it's only right that ALL TAXI MEMBERS SHOULD BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPT OUT OF BROADJAM AND RECEIVE A PRO-RATED REFUND.-Allen