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afranks · Post by **afranks** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:19 pm

I'm looking at getting a new set up and I have been looking at laptops recently. I've budgeted about $2000 dollars for this and I'm having trouble deciding on a PC/Sonar or a MacBook/Logic set up.Any advice would really be appreciated.Thanks,Al

stick · Post by **stick** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:51 pm

Well, I'm completely biased, but I'd go Mac/Logic everytime. So, my opinion is not worth much.

sgs4u · Post by **sgs4u** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:59 pm

Quote:Well, I'm completely biased, but I'd go Mac/Logic everytime. So, my opinion is not worth much. I must concur with my squinty-eyed friend. Logic simply rules. But the only thing that matters, is what you actually need, to do your thing.

ddusty · Post by **ddusty** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:32 am

If I agree, do I need to change my avatar to a close up of my face? I would feel bad if my hair was cut out of the picture Go with the Mac/Logic. Sonar/PC will work fine, just not for me

matto · Post by **matto** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:26 am

Depends if you're new to desktop recording or not. If yes, Logic has perhaps the steepest learning curve of all modern DAW's so that's something to keep in mind.On the other hand, at the new price, Logic 8 is hard to beat purely from a price/performance ratio since Apple is basically selling it at a loss leader price now to lure new people to the Mac platform. We'll have to see if other DAW manufacturares drop their prices too.FWIW, I'm on a PC/Cubase system and Dave W is on a PC with Sonar, so it's certainly possible to make music and be successful at it on something other than a Mac... matto

elser · Post by **elser** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:08 am

Quote:Well, I'm completely biased, but I'd go Mac/Logic everytime. So, my opinion is not worth much. What he said. One more thing, with Logic 8 Apple has really addressed the 'steep learning curve'. I've been using it for years and have my own way of working with it but found myself completely comfortable with the redesigned interface within a couple of days. Elser

rcase · Post by **rcase** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:22 am

I'm required by law to respond to all PC/Mac advice-oriented posts. I think maybe I'm also required by my conscience to say my advice on this matter is anything but impartial. I've been making music on a Mac for over 16 years. I don't know about the quality of the music, but I've never doubted my choice of platform. Al, in relation to what the extremely knowledgeable matto said about Logic's learning curve, I would just add that I think that statement was especially dead-on accurate a few versions back. Heck, maybe even one version back. As of version 8, a lot of changes were made to the user interface, so that somebody coming from GarageBand (Apple's free-with-any-new-Mac starter-music-application) can get up and running pretty quickly. I say that as somebody who 'grew up' with Performer/Digital Performer on the Mac, and always viewed Logic's interface as completely illogical. I'm now using Logic and, in the short time version 8 has been out, feel more at home working in it than I did in DP.As matto said, Apple slashed the price of Logic in half with this new version, so you're getting an amazing amount of stuff for under $500. They even offer Logic Express for under $200, so you could go with that now, and upgrade the rest of the way when you're ready. Having babbled on like an over-eager puppy humping Steve Jobs' leg, I must also agree with matto and say that you'll likely do just as well creating music if you go the PC route. The Sonar choice you mention would be a great one, as I'm sure Dave Walton will tell you. I think its maker- Cakewalk- is pretty aggressive when it comes to updates, cutting-edge features, yada yada. Whatever you choose, good luck to you, and have fun making music!!Rob

stick · Post by **stick** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:39 am

Agreed on the newly easier to use Logic 8... at first use it's not much more complicated than Garageband now. Make a track, pick a sound, play away. The cool thing is that all the under-laying Environments and routings and stuff are still all there if you need to go that deep. I'm sure many just coming into Logic now won't even bother.

afranks · Post by **afranks** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:17 am

Thanks for all the advice.I was also looking at interfaces last night. I like the Focusrite Saffire, but the Apogee Duet may be the way to go. Has anyone used either of these, if not what is another direction I could take.Thanks,Al

stick · Post by **stick** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:24 am

The Duet will sound WAY better than the Saffire. I think it's hard to beat for sound quality in that price range.

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