Taxi screeners and you

[GEOKOS]

I agree with alot of people on here I think taxi is just using us for money to line thier pockets . Yes sometimes their reviews are helpful but it seems to me they keep you straggeling along till you pay them enough money before they foward you or your account is about over then they give you one to keep you signed up . I sent in a song for the dark brooding and other people's music sounds just about in the same vain as mine but yet it didn get forwarded I got a check for music is why it didn get forwarded and said wasnt right on target for listing ok so why did other people get forwarded when some of the songs almost sound identical ...why because its all about our money honey .oh and dont give me your crap about well if you post a link to it maybe we can help you .

[crs7string]

I agree with alot of people on here I think taxi is just using us for money to line thier pockets . Yes sometimes their reviews are helpful but it seems to me they keep you straggeling along till you pay them enough money before they foward you or your account is about over then they give you one to keep you signed up . I sent in a song for the dark brooding and other people's music sounds just about in the same vain as mine but yet it didn get forwarded I got a check for music is why it didn get forwarded and said wasnt right on target for listing ok so why did other people get forwarded when some of the songs almost sound identical ...why because its all about our money honey .oh and dont give me your crap about well if you post a link to it maybe we can help you .

Geokos,

With all due respect, what would you like to accomplish with your post?

Everybody gets returned. It's all part of the game.

A rant like this and an accusation that TAXI is just "using us for money to line their pockets" just because you had one little piece of music turned down is most likely not going to garner much sympathy or support.

On another note, our end users do visit this forum. I know first hand that they too are "screeners". Their screening is for attitude. If a library owner or music supervisor has a choice of working with someone who is flexible, willing to take criticism, and make changes based on feedback VS. someone who isn't willing to do these things, who will they choose to work with as a composer.

Also, several of the regular posters here refer each other to our business relationships. We do this as an outgrowth of the trust relationships we have developed. And, all of us get returned. (see my friend Big Bluebarry's posts) Is your "rant" creating trust on this forum?

I, for one, won't be giving you "crap" about posting the track. Life is too short to help those who don't want help.

Best of luck.

Chuck

[davewalton]

I agree with alot of people on here I think taxi is just using us for money to line thier pockets . Yes sometimes their reviews are helpful but it seems to me they keep you straggeling along till you pay them enough money before they foward you or your account is about over then they give you one to keep you signed up . I sent in a song for the dark brooding and other people's music sounds just about in the same vain as mine but yet it didn get forwarded I got a check for music is why it didn get forwarded and said wasnt right on target for listing ok so why did other people get forwarded when some of the songs almost sound identical ...why because its all about our money honey.

OK... mine got forwarded for the dispatch listing. Didn't I send in the same $5? Oh well... tell me why this didn't deserve a forward please...

http://www.DaveWaltonMusic.com/MyMusic/ ... teries.mp3

The truth is, this got forwarded because several years ago instead of complaining about the screeners and whining about getting returned, I got my ego out of the way and my butt in working mode. I posted tracks that didn't get forwarded, got feedback from those that were getting forwards and deals and I learned what I could from those people and from the critiques. Then I slowly worked on getting better.

To be honest, for this one I guessed at which show it might be (wasn't too hard), and downloaded the video of their current opening sequence and used the visuals as a template for inspiration for what I wrote. I realize that not everyone does this but how much homework and pre-planning went into what you did?

I really resent the insinuation that those of us that work hard at getting better and therefore get forwarded are only forwarded because of special treatment or because the screeners didn't know what they were doing. Insulting all those that have successes through hard work isn't a great way to get deals and isn't a particularly successful way to network in the music industry either.

[GEOKOS]

Its a post just like many others have posted it ok if you dont understand how it works then bugga boo to you its a statment like OK example one guy got a return I think it was three times about a song with a stupid reply saying You are not on the news this song is a first come first serve kinda statment you have to go when the news breaks altough we are still engaged in many combat scenes all around the world should I give you another .... ") ok I will how about the guy who got a return from one screener and was told to change this and that and he didn and got a forward on another listing cause the first screener gave him 7's and 8's and thought it was a middle management song and the other thought it was a great song ...as the submitter said it should be a good song even if it didn get forwarded ... Should I go on to another ok I will I say a post where Ones memebership was about to close and mind you he had not one forward the whole time he was a memeber but yet indeed he got a letter stating why he should rejoin and ooops can you guess it a forward right after he recieved the letter is that luck or what I think maybe the chances of that happening was a little incentive should I give another ex....How about the guys lyrics that got returned based on what kind of wall was he talking about was it stuckoo or brick Idk maybe Hank williams floor was hard wood or how about these boots are made for walking where they aligator boots did that question ever arrive at that point in time .... I m saying think about the facts not your ego so many people say its a crock. its not about the attitude its about money 300 hundred to join five dolla's a song think about how much cash they taken in off people this is 2010 not 1943 money talks and those who aint got walks you get what I am saying prob not ...And Dave I see you post on every bodys post on here and I am glad you got forwarded but how many songs sit in limbo before it actually makes any loot off of it ... probally alot .... I am a real big fan of the submit and forget theory ...lol I mean come on I am sure there are those who got instant cash and I am sure there are those why are still sitting in limbo waiting for a pay check after submiting about six grands worth of stuff . Same with the dispatch listings I see alot of people saying why am I paying for this when it get sput on the regular listings very true I am just saying think about it thats all if you guys wanna get mad an cluck like chickens about go ahead after all its only one persons opinion here on the way this site works but I am content

[GEOKOS]

ALso another question ? why is everyone so affiad to express thier opinions on here even if its bad. what should it matter ? that almost makes this a one sided coin we can get judged but oh wait better not say anything out of line or I won't get forwarded next time what ever happed to freedom of speech Expressing ones point of view I guess that got left in 1943 huh If your afriad to say whats on your mind and they take it offensive and dont forward you becuase of it. then thats backwards cause you pay them not them paying you if they get insulted they should say heres half the money you didin use and goodluck to ya

[matto]

Let me guess what the reason for your return was...

"Not enough sectional contrast" ?


Just a little tidbit of information: Taxi screeners have no idea how long someone's been a member or when their membership runs out. They are a completely separate entity from membership services.

[GEOKOS]

@ matto yeah I get yoru joke and really with out your funny haha i got some good reviews I just think its funny how alot of people are afriad to say anything thats on your mind when its bad I guess alot of you can't see where its ok if the screener makes a mistske on a listing and you lose your money cause of a something they did ooops I cause I gotta chalk it up my loss. I have seen post like that also how about three listings down or so ... the listing for I think it starts with a la carmike or something or how about the when the ground shakes post or how about the lyric return post or how about the drive me nuts post and go back through the post listings how about those posts... and just a fyi I posted something of this nature before I got returned so its not a rant about why I didn get returned its a opinion I think is well worth the looking into you may like throwing your money into a well others don't and would like to know things are getting judged responsibly . Can anyone justify how its ok to do these things that alot of people has complianed about with a clear answer rather than trying to suck it up with taxi cause they are so worried they may not get a forward it seems you rather defend them rather then looking at some of the facts and I thought this was a comunity not bash one persons view on how a company works and how do you know they dont know how long you are a memeber they have a computer sitting in front of them dont they all your info could pop up right on the screen ... Just cause it says it in the facts and rule books dont mean jack didilly ...... The president tells you all the time he's gonna change the world doe's it ever happen ? Mitch Mitchal could look at the camrea and sat Jimi is alive and well with a smile would you believe or maybe you believe everything you see or hear ? Are you working in the company to actually see how the screening goes on daily ? Lets see maybe Clinton didn have sexual relations with that woman way back when he said he didn did you believe that also haha

[mazz]

It's really not about whether one complains about TAXI or the screeners or whatever, it's more about HOW that person chooses to do it.

Your anger and frustration comes through loud and clear, but I don't think it's going to change anyone's mind. The folks that complain about TAXI will always find something to complain about (just like complainers in general) and the folks that support TAXI and have had some success (some of those that have responded to you, for instance) will generally always find something positive to focus on in regards to TAXI, even if they get a lot of returns.

I think it really just boils down to point of view, and if there's one thing in life a person has control over, it's their point of view. A old cliche that comes to mind here is: Is the glass half full or half empty?

We could all stack up evidence on either side of the argument, but what is that really going to get us?

Good luck, I hope things turn around for you.

[GEOKOS]

Thanks Mazz and I was'nt angry when I wrote it ...lol Tying to get the point across we the people only know or go by what they tell us and its hard to believe at times when so many rip off artist and scams are out there sure The world needs believer's and dreamers but in this day and age being those is some times being a sucker . I just think its funny how many people state this and that about why we pay money for it ...lol Like just from a post I saw on a google search that pooped up Taxi scam about A guy who discarded his acount cause he kept getting replys about lyrics being to predictable . Now what I am saying is what if a song is a rap song and use's profanity now that may be a big hit done by snoop or who ever does it gets out on the radio say you submit a song that has one word using that profanity and gets censored saying t may not get forwarded cause of the f bomb now there is alot of songs in and on the radio that gets beeped out al day long .

why is it they put songs about girls undercarriage and sing about stuff like that .... Money one factor but yet if you was to submit it that would be the reason it didn get forwarded say you took that out I bet it would be another reason why it was not forwared..haha


same with the way lyrics go if they rymed and fit the song and made sense why should it be returned speaking from a general point of view here
if it says " dig dug made a rug it was fine so he took some time to drink his wine " that was just a off the head thing but I bet if he got submitted it would be it ryms to much . If you said " dig dug went to the liquor store to get himsielf some booty butter it would be the words dont rym ...haha

[mazz]

Yes, we pay for a service and we should get something in return, and TAXI is pretty up front about being responsive to it's paying customers. And it's up to you to contact them when you feel something is not right.

The thing is, the evidence is kind of overwhelming in favor of TAXI NOT being a scam when you read the TAXI Success Stories section of the forum. No one forced those folks to write in about their successes, just like no one forced anyone to fork over their cash to join TAXI in the first place. I'd be willing to bet a round of drinks at the TAXI Rally that each and every one of those folks has gotten a lot of returns, maybe even more returns than forwards in a lot of cases, and I'd be willing to bet another round that there's a percentage of those returns that are head scratchers.

I'd also venture a guess that one determiner of their future success, and hence their opportunity to post it up, was how they handled their returns and critiques. It was totally their choice to keep going or to quit, and yes, they probably had to deal with some anger and feelings that TAXI is a scam at times. But one has to believe in something in this crazy business, and they chose to believe in TAXI as a way to assist them in their career. You may choose another route based on your experience. But to out of hand dismiss TAXI as a scam may be your reality, but it isn't one shared by quite a few others. That in itself deserves a second look, IMO.

If your music is great, and you are great at targeting it, then you may not need a service such as TAXI provides. And if your music is great, you are great at targeting it, and you have some good connections to target it to, then maybe your time and energy is better spent elsewhere. I can say from experience that until you have those skills and connections, you will get much better feedback from TAXI screeners than you will cold calling any library or publisher. And if you can get past the TAXI screeners, you can say that you are gaining a foothold in an industry where it's very difficult to get a foothold on your own.

But that's just my reality, your mileage may vary.

Good luck!!

Mazz