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Re: The Fools You Bet On

Post by rld » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:14 am

Vocals still sound like you have some sort of chorus or off center panning.Center placement with stereo reverb is probably a better way to go for this type song.The vocals sound good, you don't need to re record, just confidence that centered with reverb is all you need.Since you are always compared to Lightfoot, visit his site and listen to his vocal placement and treatment...can't go wrong emulating him. http://www.myspace.com/gordonlightfootofficial

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Re: The Fools You Bet On

Post by wignelson » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:46 am

Mar 12, 2009, 6:14am, rld wrote:Vocals still sound like you have some sort of chorus or off center panning.Center placement with stereo reverb is probably a better way to go for this type song.The vocals sound good, you don't need to re record, just confidence that centered with reverb is all you need.Since you are always compared to Lightfoot, visit his site and listen to his vocal placement and treatment...can't go wrong emulating him. http://www.myspace.com/gordonlightfootofficialSee if this is any better, RLDhttp://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=70838Wig

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Re: The Fools You Bet On

Post by rld » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:38 am

Mar 13, 2009, 12:46pm, wignelson wrote:Mar 12, 2009, 6:14am, rld wrote:Vocals still sound like you have some sort of chorus or off center panning.Center placement with stereo reverb is probably a better way to go for this type song.The vocals sound good, you don't need to re record, just confidence that centered with reverb is all you need.Since you are always compared to Lightfoot, visit his site and listen to his vocal placement and treatment...can't go wrong emulating him. http://www.myspace.com/gordonlightfootofficialSee if this is any better, RLDhttp://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=70838Wig Well, the vocals don't sound centered...I still hear a quasi stereo chorus or some similar sounding effect.Did you try just a centered vocal with stereo reverb?Hey, it's JMO and if you like it this way go for it, but this type of vocal treatment puts up the "home studio" red flag to me.I don't know if you checked out the GL link I gave you, but that's the type of sound I'd pursue.

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Re: The Fools You Bet On

Post by iceman » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:20 pm

For me, the instrumentation seems a bit thick, up front and competing with the vocals. I would like to hear more air...more sparse instrumentation with some creative panning. The electric guitar at about 1:08 is cool. Maybe panned out to it's own space with some echo or reverb would make even more effective. Same with the very nice guitar at about 3:00. Hamonically, everything works well together but again it just seems a bit thick. At about 2:08 things thin out a bit...it's just piano and (I think) one guitar ... that sounds soothing to me. The quality of your voice is perfect for the tune and is certainly good enough to support a minimal instrumental backdrop.Reminds me of Harry Chapin. Good song.-Randy

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Re: The Fools You Bet On

Post by k o star » Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:19 pm

Love the clarity & simplicity of the track... the guitar licks in & out of the mix are my fav parts... nice tone.-K
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Re: The Fools You Bet On

Post by mojobone » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:07 pm

Lightfoot? Chapin? Reminded me of Steven Stills.
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Re: The Fools You Bet On

Post by ideascapes » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:53 pm

Hi Wig. I've been gone for a while and it seems many of the old regulars have disappeared.You have a very distinctive voice and style that's very pleasing. "The Fools You Bet On" is a great title.From a production standpoint, I agree with ice's comment about the instrumentation being too upfront. I'd also say the drums were too busy at times with fills. There were also a few times when the guitar seemed slightly out of time, which of course detracts from the experience a bit.Vince

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