Warning! Overt Christian Lyrics!

[billg]

The thing that's tough to take is the entire notion that somehow America is getting what it deserves because we've in someway angered God. These are the same ideas the people had who decided to crash planes into the twin towers . . . . People acting in the name of God are also fond of straping on bombs and blowing people up so they can be rewarded by God, with virgins no less! Are we all talking about the same God?I know none of this was intended by this song or these lyrics, but the idea that America is being punished or needs to be punished in the name of God are the same ideas that are held by the people who have declared war against us.It's cool that in this part of the world you can write a song about anything you want, you can express any beliefs you wish, any message you want to convey. I respect you and what you believe. But people are also free to be critical.Our country is in an economic jam right now because of greed at the top of the food chain, plain and simple. We'll, maybe not so simple. But we will sort it out, fix it, and come out on top regardless of your "biblical theory".

[carlosgomez]

wow.If the Jews are the chosen people then why are they the only ones in the Middle East without oil? But I digress with a Bill Maher joke. The production was o.k. I suppose but I think that this song would be better served with some pissed off music and a coked out singer. Sounds too Ned Flanders for the content of the lyrics. Please don't quote the bible to me.

[carlosgomez]

Apr 12, 2009, 5:05am, djb wrote:Posting a song like this is obviously done looking for a reaction so I will oblige. The lyric is on a high bar level with Achy Breaky Heart. Painting any people with such a broad brush is ridiculous and shallow minded. You kick the hornets nest and wonder why you get stung. I'm working on an Evil Canadians song but am having trouble since you have no fatherless children, homeless people or abortion in your country.You do however have some great bacon. I have to wonder why you even care what we evil Americans think of your song. When your church gets its new town built in Guyana this would be a great recruitment song. You get your opinion, here's one from an evil American. Carry on. DaveNo way you are wrong! That is definately ham and not bacon. ;>)

[michael11]

Apr 12, 2009, 6:21pm, billg wrote:The thing that's tough to take is the entire notion that somehow America is getting what it deserves because we've in someway angered God. These are the same ideas the people had who decided to crash planes into the twin towers . . . . People acting in the name of God are also fond of straping on bombs and blowing people up so they can be rewarded by God, with virgins no less! Are we all talking about the same God?I know none of this was intended by this song or these lyrics, but the idea that America is being punished or needs to be punished in the name of God are the same ideas that are held by the people who have declared war against us.It's cool that in this part of the world you can write a song about anything you want, you can express any beliefs you wish, any message you want to convey. I respect you and what you believe. But people are also free to be critical.Our country is in an economic jam right now because of greed at the top of the food chain, plain and simple. We'll, maybe not so simple. But we will sort it out, fix it, and come out on top regardless of your "biblical theory". Quote:Our country is in an economic jam right now because of greed at the top of the food chain, plain and simple. We'll, maybe not so simple. But we will sort it out, fix it, and come out on top regardless of your "biblical theory". This is the most sensible and accurate comment I've heard regarding the worlds economic dilemma.Michael.

[pitterpatter]

Apr 12, 2009, 6:21pm, billg wrote:The thing that's tough to take is the entire notion that somehow America is getting what it deserves because we've in someway angered God. These are the same ideas the people had who decided to crash planes into the twin towers . . . . People acting in the name of God are also fond of straping on bombs and blowing people up so they can be rewarded by God, with virgins no less! Are we all talking about the same God?I know none of this was intended by this song or these lyrics, but the idea that America is being punished or needs to be punished in the name of God are the same ideas that are held by the people who have declared war against us.It's cool that in this part of the world you can write a song about anything you want, you can express any beliefs you wish, any message you want to convey. I respect you and what you believe. But people are also free to be critical.Our country is in an economic jam right now because of greed at the top of the food chain, plain and simple. We'll, maybe not so simple. But we will sort it out, fix it, and come out on top regardless of your "biblical theory". Bill. It's just one person's opinion and a theory based on the bible. If the God of the bible doesn't exist, then you and America have nothing to worry about. Don't worry. Be happy. However, if the God of the bible does exist, then America could have made plans to chop up any city on Earth and it wouldn't have mattered so much. Jerusalem is God's holy city and it comes under God's covenant with Abraham and the bloodline of God's son, Jesus. Any plans to carve up that city are a direct afront to the God of the bible and it comes with dire consequences; actions that invoke a promise of a curse.The Roman Empire used to cover most of the Earth and now they're gone. The same thing could happen to America. The blessings of God have allowed America the freedoms and prosperity that America has enjoyed over the years. Your country was founded on Christian principles. It's not that America needs to be punished by God. It's more like America stepped on a rattle snake and was bitten. Now, America just needs to back away from the rattle snake before they get bit to death. No one can challenge God and hold their ground against God and expect to win. You said your country has had an economic downturn and you can, by yourselves, turn this thing around and come out on top. If you think that America can do that without God's help, well once again I'll say, "Good luck with that. I wish you well." Any horrible thing can happen to America if God removes His hand of blessing and protection. I'd be a bit worried, if I was you. But, you don't believe any of this so don't worry. Be happy. But don't expect your economic crisis to change unless America changes it's policies regarding Israel and Jerusalem. America can't do anything about it's economic situation without God's help and if you want God's help, don't poke Him in the eye.

[benjamine]

Apr 13, 2009, 4:52am, pitterpatter wrote:Apr 12, 2009, 6:21pm, billg wrote:The thing that's tough to take is the entire notion that somehow America is getting what it deserves because we've in someway angered God. These are the same ideas the people had who decided to crash planes into the twin towers . . . . People acting in the name of God are also fond of straping on bombs and blowing people up so they can be rewarded by God, with virgins no less! Are we all talking about the same God?I know none of this was intended by this song or these lyrics, but the idea that America is being punished or needs to be punished in the name of God are the same ideas that are held by the people who have declared war against us.It's cool that in this part of the world you can write a song about anything you want, you can express any beliefs you wish, any message you want to convey. I respect you and what you believe. But people are also free to be critical.Our country is in an economic jam right now because of greed at the top of the food chain, plain and simple. We'll, maybe not so simple. But we will sort it out, fix it, and come out on top regardless of your "biblical theory". Bill. It's just one person's opinion and a theory based on the bible. If the God of the bible doesn't exist, then you and America have nothing to worry about. Don't worry. Be happy. However, if the God of the bible does exist, then America could have made plans to chop up any city on Earth and it wouldn't have mattered so much. Jerusalem is God's holy city and it comes under God's covenant with Abraham and the bloodline of God's son, Jesus. Any plans to carve up that city are a direct afront to the God of the bible and it comes with dire consequences; actions that invoke a promise of a curse.The Roman Empire used to cover most of the Earth and now they're gone. The same thing could happen to America. The blessings of God have allowed America the freedoms and prosperity that America has enjoyed over the years. Your country was founded on Christian principles. It's not that America needs to be punished by God. It's more like America stepped on a rattle snake and was bitten. Now, America just needs to back away from the rattle snake before they get bit to death. No one can challenge God and hold their ground against God and expect to win. You said your country has had an economic downturn and you can, by yourselves, turn this thing around and come out on top. If you think that America can do that without God's help, well once again I'll say, "Good luck with that. I wish you well." Any horrible thing can happen to America if God removes His hand of blessing and protection. I'd be a bit worried, if I was you. But, you don't believe any of this so don't worry. Be happy. But don't expect your economic crisis to change unless America changes it's policies regarding Israel and Jerusalem. America can't do anything about it's economic situation without God's help and if you want God's help, don't poke Him in the eye. Quote:if you want God's help, don't poke Him in the eye.I think you just poked bill in the eye!!!

[toddt]

Bill is spot on (though I believe it's greed throughout the food chain, combined with a lack of responsible regulation...).But it's saddening that some people will not make an effort to educate themselves on a subject (i.e. in this case Israel, middle east history, Palestine, the economy etc) and just regurgitate the superstitious dogma that is spoon-fed to them. And you now having given me a chance to read more of your views, sorry Pitterpatter but much to your protest, they are kind of by textbook definition, bigotry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry .And that's why the lyrics of your song are just bad. Because you take contentious issues well worthy of debate and with great things to be said for/against/about them, and slap a simplistic spin on them that no matter what anyone else believes for whatever myriad considered reasons, "God's punishing you coz you don't agree" which is a nasty thing to say, regardless of what you believe. So they're kind of puerile. If you did it with irony that could be brilliant, but there's not a trace of that, so they're just kind of "bad".I just thank God (or whatever) that we don't live in a theocracy - although it has to be said that the one-man-one-vote ideal is taking a massive beating on this thread too.ttp.s. how does this work in with your views.... this song on your myspace is arguably musically nowhere near the best one on there (your other stuff is good!). Yet in this case you choose to (rationally) explain that fact as being due to a lack of money or desire to spend it on a better demo, rather than (irrationally) because "God thinks this particular message doesn't deserve to be out there" - especially when Jesus is supposed to have said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".

[djb]

A quote from a previous post above: "You may disagree with his message, but music is the ultimate freedom of speech arena. I applaud the original poster for speaking his mind whether or not people agree with it."Realize that you're applauding one person for speaking their mind while telling others not to speak theirs. (insert smilie here)

[benjamine]

Apr 13, 2009, 8:49am, djb wrote: A quote from a previous post above: "You may disagree with his message, but music is the ultimate freedom of speech arena. I applaud the original poster for speaking his mind whether or not people agree with it."Realize that you're applauding one person for speaking their mind while telling others not to speak theirs. (insert smilie here)Quote:Realize that you're applauding one person for speaking their mind while telling others not to speak theirs. (insert smilie here)Insert your own it doesn't cost any extra!!

[jonathanm]

You know, people post all kinds of songs on here with philosophies and lifestyles that we don't agree with. We don't make it a practice to attack their beliefs.Let it go, folks. Stick to the song critique. If you disagree with the lyric, just say a quick "I don't agree with the lyric" and move on in the critique.