Warning! Overt Christian Lyrics!

[billg]

So it's YOUR list of possible disasters?!!? that is a very very strange thing to do.You're placing your bets and choosing a disaster for us to suffer through, Mmmm. And you can't understand why anyone would have a problem with this?How would you feel if someone was making bets on disasters they were foretelling would fall on you and your country? your family? tell me, what church is it that's ok with this kind of rhetoric?

[djb]

Pitterpatter writes: "They can't be just little events. They need to be fairly large out of the ordinary events to be certain that it's God and not just coincidences.So, here's my list of possible disasters.Major earthquakes killing thousands and devastating many square milesVolcanic eruptions with major impactTidal waves with major impactNuclear meltdowns devastating miles of American soilOther environmental disasters such as oil or chemical spills with major impact Major terrorist attacksMajor economic upheaval/Job losses/DepressionNuclear attackWars with major impact on America Disease outbreaks with large death tollsLarge groups of people being poisoned ie tainted water or food.Forest fires devastating miles of landIf you guys are right, nothing will happen when Obama makes his move. If I'm right, look out America. Good luck to all of you. I wish you well in this experiment"Ummm, You wish us well but you wanna win this bet? This is just too weird. I don't know what to say.......

[mcanty]

Apr 13, 2009, 2:32pm, hummingbird wrote:This whole thread reminds me why I don't believe in religion. How can you not believe in religion? You may not practice it but surely you admit religion does exist, right?

[Casey H]

Apr 13, 2009, 1:34pm, pitterpatter wrote: So, here's my list of possible disasters.Major earthquakes killing thousands and devastating many square milesVolcanic eruptions with major impactTidal waves with major impactNuclear meltdowns devastating miles of American soilOther environmental disasters such as oil or chemical spills with major impact Major terrorist attacksMajor economic upheaval/Job losses/DepressionNuclear attackWars with major impact on America Disease outbreaks with large death tollsLarge groups of people being poisoned ie tainted water or food.Forest fires devastating miles of landYou forgot... no more taxi forwards for the non-believers!!

[billg]

Apr 13, 2009, 3:49pm, hurowitz wrote:Apr 13, 2009, 1:34pm, pitterpatter wrote: So, here's my list of possible disasters.Major earthquakes killing thousands and devastating many square milesVolcanic eruptions with major impactTidal waves with major impactNuclear meltdowns devastating miles of American soilOther environmental disasters such as oil or chemical spills with major impact Major terrorist attacksMajor economic upheaval/Job losses/DepressionNuclear attackWars with major impact on America Disease outbreaks with large death tollsLarge groups of people being poisoned ie tainted water or food.Forest fires devastating miles of landYou forgot... no more taxi forwards for the non-believers!! Ha! Vikki you're doomed to be returned eternally! Pitterpatter, do you feel safe being in the same country as Vikki? Isn't possible that her "heatheness" could cause disasters to unfold in Canada as well?I'm curious as to how this would work . . . will certain people be spared from these disasters? How will God figure out who has been poking him in the eye?

[cameron]

Apr 13, 2009, 3:49pm, hurowitz wrote:You forgot... no more taxi forwards for the non-believers!! Sheez, so that's my problem! And here I thought it was because my songs suck.

[jonathanm]

Pitter, you've opened this thread up to being about much more than just the critique of the song.I see this one heading to an unfortunate end, as opposed to the "meaning of life" thread which, though passionately debated from many sides, was "mostly" respectful and civil, coming to a nice close. You might just want to nip this one in the bud; it's heading down the wrong path. At the very least, this one belongs now in General Discussion, since it's not about peer review of the song.

[carlosgomez]

Apr 13, 2009, 1:34pm, pitterpatter wrote:Apr 13, 2009, 6:22am, toddt wrote:Bill is spot on (though I believe it's greed throughout the food chain, combined with a lack of responsible regulation...).But it's saddening that some people will not make an effort to educate themselves on a subject (i.e. in this case Israel, middle east history, Palestine, the economy etc) and just regurgitate the superstitious dogma that is spoon-fed to them. And you now having given me a chance to read more of your views, sorry Pitterpatter but much to your protest, they are kind of by textbook definition, bigotry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry .And that's why the lyrics of your song are just bad. Because you take contentious issues well worthy of debate and with great things to be said for/against/about them, and slap a simplistic spin on them that no matter what anyone else believes for whatever myriad considered reasons, "God's punishing you coz you don't agree" which is a nasty thing to say, regardless of what you believe. So they're kind of puerile. If you did it with irony that could be brilliant, but there's not a trace of that, so they're just kind of "bad".I just thank God (or whatever) that we don't live in a theocracy - although it has to be said that the one-man-one-vote ideal is taking a massive beating on this thread too.ttp.s. how does this work in with your views.... this song on your myspace is arguably musically nowhere near the best one on there (your other stuff is good!). Yet in this case you choose to (rationally) explain that fact as being due to a lack of money or desire to spend it on a better demo, rather than (irrationally) because "God thinks this particular message doesn't deserve to be out there" - especially when Jesus is supposed to have said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".Well. You learn something new every day. Who knew that having a difference of opinion from other people makes a person a bigot? Although, a lot of people do believe in God and the bible so it may be a more widely accepted opinion then you think.As I've said before, other people are entitled to their opinions. I believe bigots don't allow for other people to have their opinions. There's no way to prove my theory except for Obama to back off his plans to divide Jerusalem and Israel and then see if the economy improves. Or, alternatively, we could watch and see what happens to America when Obama makes efforts to push ahead with his plans to divide Israel and Jerusalem. Presumably, every time he meets with others to discuss the division or makes moves in that direction, more trouble will befall America. So, let's watch and see. Or maybe the economy will just miraculously improve all on it's own and Obama wil divide Jerusalem and Israel without any consequences. In that case, several people who've posted here will be proven correct. Let's just see how it goes. I assume Obama has policies that he intends to try to implement so we can all make our bets and see what happens. They can't be just little events. They need to be fairly large out of the ordinary events to be certain that it's God and not just coincidences.So, here's my list of possible disasters.Major earthquakes killing thousands and devastating many square milesVolcanic eruptions with major impactTidal waves with major impactNuclear meltdowns devastating miles of American soilOther environmental disasters such as oil or chemical spills with major impact Major terrorist attacksMajor economic upheaval/Job losses/DepressionNuclear attackWars with major impact on America Disease outbreaks with large death tollsLarge groups of people being poisoned ie tainted water or food.Forest fires devastating miles of landIf you guys are right, nothing will happen when Obama makes his move. If I'm right, look out America. Good luck to all of you. I wish you well in this experiment. pretty sure that all of those were b rated movies already. how about some real imagination for once. pretty sure that someone is off their meds. Then again you could write lyrics for b rated movies. You may have some success in that genre.BTW. How does your story resolve after the evil country has a disaster?

[toddt]

Apr 13, 2009, 3:49pm, hurowitz wrote:You forgot... no more taxi forwards for the non-believers!! Oh screener, who art in California, hallowed be thy ears.Thy critique come, though it be but one - it's worth, oh, at least eleven.Give us this day our annual forward, and forgive us our cliches,As we forgive you your poignant yet bitter medicine.And lead us not into the Temptations, Unless of course it is a retro listing.Amen.

[orest]

I couldn't play the song, it won't start. My personal opinion is this: A country can't be evil, but the persons in it can be. But there are bad people and good people all over the world. And, we all have bad and good inside of us, but what do we chose to do with our free will? I think the hatred will divide us, it's better to live the path of love and pray for love and kindness in all our hearts. I think your lyrics are a bit too judgmental, using lines like:"Amer-i-ca. You reap what you sow.Amer-i-ca. There’s a God, don’t you know? "Isn't this to judge all the inhabitants in America? I don't understand your lyrics at all. I do believe in the father, son and the holy spirit, but not in this way you do. The bible clearly states that you shall not judge. No one is perfect in this world, we all have our flaws. I think it's better to work on the parts inside yourself that ain't so good. I do it myself, and I know I'm not perfect, but I do my best to be kind and loving! Be a helping hand!