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Re: new tune

Post by funsongs » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:10 pm

johnlewitt wrote:BTW Peter, I would have listed this as Americana on Soundcloud but they don't give me the choice. I figured Country and Americana were close enough.
Actually - I think you can select "custom" and write in whatever you want; there are other genres - like Bluegrass - missing from their default list.
More often than not, I use the custom option, cause my funsongs rarely fit into any category. :? :shock: :P
Hope that helps.
And - I'll chime in, too, with Cass & MM - politely, as it were - the first "divide" word/pronunciation puzzled my ears also.
I get your explanation. However, if you're considering pitching this song through the screeners - who are in L.A. :? :shock: 8-) ...
that could possibly be a sticking point... a sticky-wicket, whatever.
All that - I still think it's a song that showcases your vocal talent and chops very well... and "The Boss" comparisons are meant to be complimentary.
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Re: new tune

Post by Oatleybake » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:19 pm

Let's get international.

As an aussie I wondered what a 'duvide' was on first listen, kept listening and got the context before enjoying the rest of the song.

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Re: new tune

Post by johnlewitt » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:51 pm

So google tells me this is the correct pronunciation of divide:

[dih-vahyd]

But you guys are saying the American way of saying it is;

dee-vide

Am I understanding that correctly?

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Re: new tune

Post by funsongs » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:23 pm

johnlewitt wrote:So google tells me this is the correct pronunciation of divide:

[dih-vahyd]

But you guys are saying the American way of saying it is;

dee-vide

Am I understanding that correctly?
After listening again to the track, carefully - to these Old-Guy ears - it's more an issue of prosody than pronunciation.
di (short "i" sound) - vide (vi'de) emphasis on the long "i") sound is in line with your Google answer/example.
Some regions may say "dee"... but I wouldn't say that's "the American way". :? 8-)

In that we're having this discussion - it seems like a significant enough wrinkle, if you will, to consider smoothing it out... however you would handle that.
OR - chalk it up to artistic license.

I hear lots of contemporary renderings of common words that "ear-itate" my hearing - like it's done for the sake of 'cool', or whatever -
like "yo" instead of "you". "Ya" sounds like ordinary slang - but I don't know where the "yo" rendering came from. That's just one example.

Ultimately - it's your (yer) song :? :shock: make it how you like it. Hough yo lyke et.
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Re: new tune

Post by cassmcentee » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:39 pm

johnlewitt wrote:So google tells me this is the correct pronunciation of divide:
[dih-vahyd]
But you guys are saying the American way of saying it is;
dee-vide
Am I understanding that correctly?
From my perspective, emphasis on the tail is dih-VAYD (more like duh-vide) is for parseling out pieces "I'll divide the pie"
and DE-vide, emphasis on the head, is something that you cross "The Great Divide"
just thoughts... :D
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Re: new tune

Post by nylyrics » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:39 pm

I would go with "there's a (DUH-VIIIIIIIDe) Vs DooVide

or what about something you can see? there are mountains. there's a roadblock. ?

I do get the "cool" factor and think that can be a plus on record. Adele has sung some words the brits might say that would never be the way we would in the states.
Kind of entertaining to hear it.

Good luck. Heartfelt song. Hope all is ok.

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Re: new tune

Post by songmaster » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:21 am

I think after you sing divide you also sing " between you and me " which I think would clear up any confusion within seconds :D

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Re: new tune

Post by johnlewitt » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:38 am

Thanks everyone for chiming in.

I do agree Tom.

Interestingly enough, I just listened to Across The Great Divide by the Band and Bruce Hornsby's Great Divide. Richard Manuel (Canadian) sings it 'duh'. Bruce Hornsby (American) sings it 'dee'.

I'm going play around with a couple different takes and see what happens.

Though I may use Cass's original suggestion of Duvet, as it changes the whole complexion of the song!

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Re: new tune

Post by cassmcentee » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:00 am

johnlewitt wrote:Though I may use Cass's original suggestion of Duvet, as it changes the whole complexion of the song!
:lol: :lol: :lol: So ya get what I was a sayin' ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: new tune

Post by melodymessiah » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:47 am

when you paste "divide" into google translate and click "listen", you'll clearly hear that the stress is on the last syllable:
https://translate.google.no/#en/no/divide

i had no idea this word is pronounced differently in other countries, if i knew i might have been a little less blunt with my comment.

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