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Re: Can I submit AI rap?

Post by CTWF » Tue May 09, 2023 11:49 am

hummingbird wrote:
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... using AI to write lyrics = potential plagiarism as nothing AI produces is unique.
I highly doubt that. I googled AI-created lyrics before and nothing comparable came up. It may be just as original (and unknowingly plagiarizing) as human lyrics.
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Re: Can I submit AI rap?

Post by CTWF » Tue May 09, 2023 1:14 pm

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In my opinion, using AI to assist you in coming up with ideas and suggestions for your creative work is fine. Beyond that, using AI to write lyrics = potential plagiarism as nothing AI produces is unique. Using an AI-generated facsimile of an artist's voice is going to be a legal minefield for awhile. If nothing else, it smacks of 'sampling' which is a no-no in sync music. e
Here, the prompt for Uberduck was "Hummingbird thinks that AI plagiarizes lyrics." This is what it had to say:


AI Debate

I'm the best rapper alive, let me set the stage
Talking 'bout hummingbirds and AI, it's all the rage
They say AI's the future, but we gotta be wary
'Cause hummingbirds think they're plagiarizing, it's kinda scary
AI can write lyrics that flow like the river Nile
But hummingbirds say they're stealing, that's just vile
It's like a cheetah stealing a lion's roar
Or an eagle taking credit for a hawk's soar
AI can spit bars that make your head spin
But hummingbirds say they're copying, that's a sin
It's like a wolf dressing up like a sheep
Or a shark pretending to be a fish that's cheap
AI's got algorithms that analyze and create
But hummingbirds say they're fake, it's up for debate
It's like a snake stealing a mongoose's bite
Or a falcon taking credit for a sparrow's flight
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Re: Can I submit AI rap?

Post by hummingbird » Tue May 09, 2023 6:56 pm

Telefunkin wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 5:07 pm
... and in all the time you've spent fretting over whether you can get away without doing any work, you could have written it yourself (with a lot more satisfaction too). Then you'd only have to worry about how to avoid paying a vocalist. :roll: :lol:
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Re: Can I submit AI rap?

Post by CTWF » Tue May 09, 2023 11:04 pm

When the first cars came out, I am sure many people pointed out that it was much faster to walk or ride a horse than first building a car and then drive it.

P.S.: This statement possibly is still true today. If you subtracted the entire automotive industry and what depends on it, all these people would have enough time to walk and take horses for all necessary travel. So, given that…
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Re: Can I submit AI rap?

Post by CTWF » Tue May 09, 2023 11:18 pm

Future lyricists will have no writer’s block anymore, because the AI can always help. There is no doubt in my mind that AI-generated or -inspired lyrics will become a major part of the music business. And that’s possibly OK.
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Re: Can I submit AI rap?

Post by CTWF » Wed May 10, 2023 1:57 am

Telefunkin wrote:
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Building the car required creativity but not driving it.
Some people would possibly argue against that. What if you replace "car" by "DAW"?

AI is another tool to support human invention and creativity, but that does not mean that AI can be denied creativity in itself. Why not take AI lyrics and AI beats as a starting point for a new project? What needs to happen is that the legal framework becomes clear. Therefore my other thread. :)

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Re: Can I submit AI rap?

Post by eeoo » Wed May 10, 2023 12:42 pm

Welcome to the future, no talent necessary. :lol:

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Re: Can I submit AI rap?

Post by CTWF » Wed May 10, 2023 1:15 pm

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Welcome to the future, no talent necessary. :lol:
I really look at it from a different angle: talent is also needed to utilize the AI in the right manner. Get inspired by the AI, and then change its output so it really does exactly what you want.
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Re: Can I submit AI rap?

Post by eeoo » Wed May 10, 2023 1:36 pm

So really the AI is the talent and you just kinda cobble it together? Sounds so gratifying and inspiring.

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Re: Can I submit AI rap?

Post by CTWF » Thu May 11, 2023 1:52 am

eeoo wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 1:36 pm
So really the AI is the talent and you just kinda cobble it together? Sounds so gratifying and inspiring.
I look at it more as computer-aided design. Nothing really new. Another couple of plugins in the DAW that help to make better music.
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