Re: Disney Terms of Use

cjdenecia · Post by **cjdenecia** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:47 pm

Dec 4, 2008, 5:10pm, sgs4u wrote:I'm not going to do battle with you Cj. But I'm going to explain a bit about me, instead of you going to conclusions that might not do either of us, or everyone else, justice. A. I don't consider this a battle, if you do, that's your gig.B. I haven't jumped to any conclusions, I've read what I've read and interpreted. C. I have no preconceptions that anyone else really cares one way or the other what you and I "battle" about.D. I guess my answer to you the other day met your approval, being as you are now addressing me personally ... cj 1 steve nill Quote:Given what you believe you know about me thus far, you might be surprised to know how often I've been on your side of this issue. However, telling me my heart isn't in music, as much as dollar signs, is your very interesting, but also flawed observation.ok. my opinion is flawed. yet, I know what I read and thus far your insistence that I read it incorrectly is only you going "beep beep beep" in full reverse unless you can show that your statement about your music being darts was only a poorly thought out lyric ... Quote:My heart goes into every moment of every day. That includes songs.no doubt. but what motivates your heart might just be the question.Quote:I have gotten past thinking my songs are my children, and yes, it took a while. Hanging out with Taxi is a wonderful way to become objective about these kinds of things. Some people never believe that objectivity about one's art is important or necessary. Some people never need to know or learn it. I did, and it made me a better man. so then, yes we are similar, in some ways. I too believe in objectivity when looking at one's art or for that matter life ... but to me, there's a relatively large difference between objectivity and apathy. and frankly, if taxi is something that teaches apathy, well ... I won't go into a slamfest on that - cus I don't necessarily currently believe it's true. tho you don't do them large favors by making their case for them in that fashion IMO. there might just be someone reading and mumbling "steve, stop helping us ..." Quote:You may not think you and I have much in common. Ask Matto or Vikki or Casey about my perspective when I first joined Taxi.yeah ok. that's a bit like saying to your second wife, I did have sex with my first wife baby, but I never came ... that was yesterday, this is today.Quote:I was absolutely convinced that Major Labels were ALL evil, and that they were the primary cause of their own demise.here's the dirty little secret I carry around ... I think about half of what the majors put out is ok, maybe even good. but hell, if I had half that much power at my disposal, I truly believe my record would be far more impressive. they have been their own worst enemy but maybe this isn't the time nor place for that discussion. I'm sure, given time and circumstance, it will come up again and my arguments regarding it, tho certainly not original nor exclusive will be fundementally sound.Quote:I believed all contract language to be suspicious, and worded to confuse and cheat songwriters.it IS suspicious. it's written by attorneys. nuff said ... I've known plenty. hired some. as people, they're like you and me, mostly ... as professionals, they're the scum of the earth. and they don't want us to understand anything they say on paper, they want us to rely on them to tell us in plainspeak what they can't seem to put in plainspeak on paper. yeah, that's something I trust ... Quote:You are welcome to disagree with me, call me names, try to tell people that I don't have a clue, or poke holes in my theories or advice. we're not going there again. I did NOT call you names and I did not tell anyone that you don't have a clue. I didn not poke any holes in your theories and I did not say you gave bad advice.those are all lies. or should I say misleading statements? me being all 'kin politically correct and shite.what I said was that I thought you coming down on kitz for posting in 3 forums wasn't exactly helpful and later on that I hope and pray I don't look at my music as simply product like you appeared to at first glance of YOUR statements.so try playing your word games with a real noob. I'm not him.Quote:It's 5 o'clock quitting time at my house. See ya. and that's it. good for you. a 9 to 5iver. me, tho I handle the other aspects of my life just fine, I live music 24/7.yeah, we will see ya ... as you've probably noticed, the talk of me being a troll and just bugging off were a little off base.I'm here. living just fine within the rules .... and giving ... you want more of me?(edited in case any other 2 year olds are reading ....)

cjdenecia · Post by **cjdenecia** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:53 pm

Dec 4, 2008, 5:26pm, andreh wrote:http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/1 ... ag=Wendycj = Wendy, Steve = Cartman, the rest of us here = everyone else in the clip.André heh .. yeah ok .. I'll buy that ... except I don't think I'll be happy kissing steve ... maybe ... remember that buggaring thing I mentioned? I might wanna explore his inner self.

andreh · Post by **andreh** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:08 pm

Dec 4, 2008, 5:47pm, cjdenecia wrote:I'm here. living just fine within the rules .......except this one:Quote:4. You agree...that you will not use these boards to post any material which is...vulgar, obscene...Got a two-year-old walking around who's just learning to spell, and It'd be nice for her to start with "ball" or "cars" before she picks up on some of the 4-letter-words you like to throw around.Thanks! André

cjdenecia · Post by **cjdenecia** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:24 pm

andre ... I appreciate your rhetoric ... cus that's what it is. why? cus if you have a 2 year old that can read, you have a lot more problems coming your way than if she can read the F-word. as well, why is she sitting at your computer reading without you supervising and lastly, get real, I never throw them around HERE. not that I don't elsewhere, but here I use them as point makers and color additions. in context. in the real world. here's my guess as a long time parent, your 2 year old will have heard sailor talk and be repeating it amongst his/her friends long before you think it's happening. and it won't be my fault. it'll be the fault of her real world contacts. if that's you and yours, so be it but don't lay THAT on me.otherwise, I suggest you do a search on how many times profanity has been used here ... my word count has to be high. my profanity % is quite low. plus, how about entering the global age man? there's more to the www than the USA morality and if you think we're not viewed as moral hypocrites, you don't get it. it's not okay to show nipple, but it IS okay to execute. it's not okay to say cock but it is okay to sell guns to idiots that will let kids have them.I don't get it. but hey, I feel your pain and I'll really try to keep it in mind ... but don't let me find anyone else saying any of the 4 letter words either. if I do, I'll forward them to you and expect you to forward them to jimi for discipline.it'll be yours.

andreh · Post by **andreh** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:29 pm

Dec 4, 2008, 6:24pm, cjdenecia wrote:hey, I feel your pain and I'll really try to keep it in mind ...Thanks man! You're the best. André

cjdenecia · Post by **cjdenecia** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:36 pm

Dec 4, 2008, 6:29pm, andreh wrote:Dec 4, 2008, 6:24pm, cjdenecia wrote:hey, I feel your pain and I'll really try to keep it in mind ...Thanks man! You're the best. André and this of course, is why I don't bother with emoticons.they lie.

mazz · Post by **mazz** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:39 pm

kitz,You're going to get lots of opinions and lots of potentially conflicting words from any layman that you consult. Until you lay down the bucks or have an entertainment attorney friend pull a pro bono for you, you're not going to get a straight answer. I advise you not to trust any of us clowns here on the forum or anywhere else on the internet or beyond.It's your career.Mazz

zingstone · Post by **zingstone** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:26 pm

Quote:Got a two-year-old walking around who's just learning to spell, and It'd be nice for her to start with "ball" or "cars" before she picks up on some of the 4-letter-words you like to throw around.Ha ha ha ha ha, that’s brilliant! You think a two-year-old’s going to pick out one 10 X 5 mm word in the midst of a ten-line paragraph on a page littered with smilies and stars and faces? I always love those true colours exhibited when someone uses the moral welfare of their child(ren) as a vehicle for their own high and mighty self-assurance.And while I’m poking my nose in here, can I just say that so far the thing which is irritating me the most about Steve à la Glib Art (see what I did there? – I am a genius!) is his perpetual over-use of the comma. Reading your posts, is like listening, to someone, with Emphysema. I think you should try to remember it’s not a lyric.[insert emoticon of your choice]That’s it, carry on.

mojobone · Post by **mojobone** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:36 am

Kitz, I responded in the other thread(s). Ideascapes' take on the web aspect may hold some water. I still think the language is boilerplate; designed to discourage lawsuits, and that Disney is unlikely to use your submission without compensation, why else require a PRO?In any case, since this thread is redundant, you might find it helpful to know that as the original poster, you can delete it by deleting your original post. (I think) Might be a good idea.

cjdenecia · Post by **cjdenecia** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:51 am

Dec 4, 2008, 5:22pm, kitz wrote:What's an abigado?attorney. scumbag. lawyer. leech. solicitor. parasite. best served frozen on a wooden stick or melted and poured generously over anything disgustingly red and bloody ...