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Post by gitarrero » Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:21 pm

Quote:I have to say that the some of the best ideas I've had have happened when I'm doing something completely unrelated to music.yeah, that's how the subconsciousness works.albert einstein used that in this way: when he had a problem he couldn't find a solution for, he wrote out what exactly he wanted to know. then he went to bed. the next morning, usually he knew a solution.I believe there is a great power in that.cheers,martin
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Post by sgs4u » Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:28 pm

My wife sent me this tonite. She's so awesome. I thought this thread might be a great place for it. Sorry if it's too long.THE SECRET OF “DOING WITHOUT DOING”An Amazing New Short-Cut to Make All Your Dreams Come TrueBy Dr. Robert AnthonyOne of the mistaken certainties or misconceptions most people operate under is that you get what you want in life by what you DO, or through the actions you take. Most people believe that the DOING or action part is what makes things happen. However, most action causes you to create in reverse.Let me explain..The reason we put a lot of emphasis on action is because we do not understand the power of our thought. If you analyze it, 90% of most people’s actions are spent trying to compensate for inappropriate thought.The Chinese philosopher Lao-tsu said that, “In the practice of the Way, every day something is dropped. Less and less do you need to force things until finally you arrive at *non action* When nothing is done, nothing is left undone”. What he is talking about is *doing without doing*The problem is that most of us are preoccupied with ‘doing’. Unfortunately most of our ‘doing’ usually involves struggle. In the western world we are conditioned to be action-oriented, so we place a tremendous value on doing. We are so busy doing that we do not realize that all this ‘doingness’ causes us to create in a reverse fashion.Most of our actions are out of fear, worry or doubt because we believe nothing will get done unless we DO something. In other words, we are trying to force our desire into manifestation through action.If your decision to DO is dominant, then you will not focus on what you want to BE in the present moment. This causes you to miscreate because BEING is the first and most important step in the creative process.Here is the secret.Action is vitally important but - it is not your action that makes things happen, it is your intent. You can reduce the need for action to a very minimum by allowing yourself to focus on what you desire until you feel the positive energy begin to move within you. This energy is not based on doubt, fear, anxiety, worry or need. If you focus on what you want instead of what you don’t want, you will know when it is time to take action. And when you do, it will be effortless. Doors open and the entire universe will conspire to assist you in your desire.Put simply, you should take no action on anything until you have visualized your desire and made it real enough in your mind that your next action (step), whatever it is, seems like the most logical step.How can you know the next logical step? Here is the test that you can give to yourself before taking any action. If you focus on what you desire and still feel overwhelmed or anxious, then you are not ready for any action. You know you are ready when it feels like the next logical step is effortless. There is no effort, no strain, and no pain.What we want to do is to use the leverage of energy, the same leverage of energy that creates everything in the universe. However, we are so caught up in the reality of WHAT IS, that we feel we must create everything through mental effort and physical activity.Have you ever seen people who seem to have all the wonderful things in their life without much effort? It almost seems like they have an advantage over everyone else. Then you see the people who work the hardest usually have the least. That doesn’t seem fair does it? But that’s the way the universe works.Unfortunately, those who work the hardest usually have the least because they haven’t learned the leverage of aligning their energy. They are going about creating their lives the hard way. They are trying to use their actions to create what they want.We have also been programmed that in order to have what we desire we must work hard. How many times have you heard – “No pain, no gain.” The implication is that if you want to make something of yourself, you must work hard. The message is clear - if you are not hurting or struggling, you are not moving forward.But here is the truth - anytime you are struggling you are miscreating. Anytime you feel pain or struggle, your magnetic point of attraction is directed to that which you do not want, rather than to that which you desire. Read it again!Actions are necessary, but they are the last component of the creation processes. Actions cannot be used effectively to initiate results, because initiation is the function of BEING, then thought, then action.Remember, the creation of anything is through your vibration. Everything vibrates, and it is by that vibration that we harmonize and attract experiences to ourselves. So before you act or do anything, first ask yourself, how am I vibrating? How do you tell? You tell by how you FEEL. Your feelings show you your vibration. How you feel determines what you attract.When you use the process of creating by only focusing on what you want instead of what you don’t want, you will see that the universe will provide a different set of circumstances for you that requires much less action. This puts you in a state of “doing without doing” or action without effort.

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Post by jeffe » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:32 pm

Wise words indeed.There is one method for achievement which I find very good. It's a sort of reverse thing.First of all you visualise what it is you want. Imagine yourself in that situation. You'll probably find a big difference between what you have now and what you visualise. The key is working out how to get to the point of what you visualise.Imagine a ladder with 10 rungs between now and your goal. So you visualised the 10th rung.now visualise what you were doing just before you reached that goal. What was the last step. That puts you on the 9th rung.Then visualise just before the 9th rung.Carry on going backwards until you have reached where you are now. Visualising each step and how you moved up.By the time you get back to where you are, you will have a complete plan laid out in front of you. You'll know what you need to do in stages. I'm sure that things won't go exactly as you envisage but you have to be realistic about the steps you take.I use this when writing songs. I hear the whole composition in my head. Then I start to move backwards until there is nothing. It shows me how to build it, and gives me the best chance of winding up with a result which closely matches my original thoughts.How often have you thought of a good song, then abandoned it because you can't seem to get it right, or it sounds nothing like you imagined when it's tangible?This might helps those that have constant problems with that.That's my bit of psychology for the day
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Post by horacejesse » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:37 pm

Quote:At least we Finns can claim the sauna and the Rapala fishing lure.Check it out. You may also have the highest heart attack rate in the western world. They don't drink their milk raw anymore perhaps. Information is about fifteen years old, so I don't really know if you Finns are still the champs of heart attack.

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Post by johnnydean1 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:26 am

Quote:My wife sent me this tonite. She's so awesome. I thought this thread might be a great place for it. Sorry if it's too long.THE SECRET OF “DOING WITHOUT DOING”An Amazing New Short-Cut to Make All Your Dreams Come TrueBy Dr. Robert AnthonyOne of the mistaken certainties or misconceptions most people operate under is that you get what you want in life by what you DO, or through the actions you take. Most people believe that the DOING or action part is what makes things happen. However, most action causes you to create in reverse.Let me explain..The reason we put a lot of emphasis on action is because we do not understand the power of our thought. If you analyze it, 90% of most people’s actions are spent trying to compensate for inappropriate thought.The Chinese philosopher Lao-tsu said that, “In the practice of the Way, every day something is dropped. Less and less do you need to force things until finally you arrive at *non action* When nothing is done, nothing is left undone”. What he is talking about is *doing without doing*The problem is that most of us are preoccupied with ‘doing’. Unfortunately most of our ‘doing’ usually involves struggle. In the western world we are conditioned to be action-oriented, so we place a tremendous value on doing. We are so busy doing that we do not realize that all this ‘doingness’ causes us to create in a reverse fashion.Most of our actions are out of fear, worry or doubt because we believe nothing will get done unless we DO something. In other words, we are trying to force our desire into manifestation through action.If your decision to DO is dominant, then you will not focus on what you want to BE in the present moment. This causes you to miscreate because BEING is the first and most important step in the creative process.Here is the secret.Action is vitally important but - it is not your action that makes things happen, it is your intent. You can reduce the need for action to a very minimum by allowing yourself to focus on what you desire until you feel the positive energy begin to move within you. This energy is not based on doubt, fear, anxiety, worry or need. If you focus on what you want instead of what you don’t want, you will know when it is time to take action. And when you do, it will be effortless. Doors open and the entire universe will conspire to assist you in your desire.Put simply, you should take no action on anything until you have visualized your desire and made it real enough in your mind that your next action (step), whatever it is, seems like the most logical step.How can you know the next logical step? Here is the test that you can give to yourself before taking any action. If you focus on what you desire and still feel overwhelmed or anxious, then you are not ready for any action. You know you are ready when it feels like the next logical step is effortless. There is no effort, no strain, and no pain.What we want to do is to use the leverage of energy, the same leverage of energy that creates everything in the universe. However, we are so caught up in the reality of WHAT IS, that we feel we must create everything through mental effort and physical activity.Have you ever seen people who seem to have all the wonderful things in their life without much effort? It almost seems like they have an advantage over everyone else. Then you see the people who work the hardest usually have the least. That doesn’t seem fair does it? But that’s the way the universe works.Unfortunately, those who work the hardest usually have the least because they haven’t learned the leverage of aligning their energy. They are going about creating their lives the hard way. They are trying to use their actions to create what they want.We have also been programmed that in order to have what we desire we must work hard. How many times have you heard – “No pain, no gain.” The implication is that if you want to make something of yourself, you must work hard. The message is clear - if you are not hurting or struggling, you are not moving forward.But here is the truth - anytime you are struggling you are miscreating. Anytime you feel pain or struggle, your magnetic point of attraction is directed to that which you do not want, rather than to that which you desire. Read it again!Actions are necessary, but they are the last component of the creation processes. Actions cannot be used effectively to initiate results, because initiation is the function of BEING, then thought, then action.Remember, the creation of anything is through your vibration. Everything vibrates, and it is by that vibration that we harmonize and attract experiences to ourselves. So before you act or do anything, first ask yourself, how am I vibrating? How do you tell? You tell by how you FEEL. Your feelings show you your vibration. How you feel determines what you attract.When you use the process of creating by only focusing on what you want instead of what you don’t want, you will see that the universe will provide a different set of circumstances for you that requires much less action. This puts you in a state of “doing without doing” or action without effort.Steve,have you got a melody for this....................................?

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Post by jeffe » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:43 am

I bet Pink Floyd would put a melody to it. They've done some marathon songs in their time. I clocked one of their tracks at 21 minutes.We could get those words in that space.
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Post by matto » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:09 am

Quote:My wife sent me this tonite. She's so awesome. I thought this thread might be a great place for it. Sorry if it's too long.THE SECRET OF “DOING WITHOUT DOING”An Amazing New Short-Cut to Make All Your Dreams Come TrueBy Dr. Robert AnthonyOne of the mistaken certainties or misconceptions most people operate under is that you get what you want in life by what you DO, or through the actions you take. Most people believe that the DOING or action part is what makes things happen. However, most action causes you to create in reverse.Let me explain..The reason we put a lot of emphasis on action is because we do not understand the power of our thought. If you analyze it, 90% of most people’s actions are spent trying to compensate for inappropriate thought.The Chinese philosopher Lao-tsu said that, “In the practice of the Way, every day something is dropped. Less and less do you need to force things until finally you arrive at *non action* When nothing is done, nothing is left undone”. What he is talking about is *doing without doing*The problem is that most of us are preoccupied with ‘doing’. Unfortunately most of our ‘doing’ usually involves struggle. In the western world we are conditioned to be action-oriented, so we place a tremendous value on doing. We are so busy doing that we do not realize that all this ‘doingness’ causes us to create in a reverse fashion.Most of our actions are out of fear, worry or doubt because we believe nothing will get done unless we DO something. In other words, we are trying to force our desire into manifestation through action.If your decision to DO is dominant, then you will not focus on what you want to BE in the present moment. This causes you to miscreate because BEING is the first and most important step in the creative process.Here is the secret.Action is vitally important but - it is not your action that makes things happen, it is your intent. You can reduce the need for action to a very minimum by allowing yourself to focus on what you desire until you feel the positive energy begin to move within you. This energy is not based on doubt, fear, anxiety, worry or need. If you focus on what you want instead of what you don’t want, you will know when it is time to take action. And when you do, it will be effortless. Doors open and the entire universe will conspire to assist you in your desire.Put simply, you should take no action on anything until you have visualized your desire and made it real enough in your mind that your next action (step), whatever it is, seems like the most logical step.How can you know the next logical step? Here is the test that you can give to yourself before taking any action. If you focus on what you desire and still feel overwhelmed or anxious, then you are not ready for any action. You know you are ready when it feels like the next logical step is effortless. There is no effort, no strain, and no pain.What we want to do is to use the leverage of energy, the same leverage of energy that creates everything in the universe. However, we are so caught up in the reality of WHAT IS, that we feel we must create everything through mental effort and physical activity.Have you ever seen people who seem to have all the wonderful things in their life without much effort? It almost seems like they have an advantage over everyone else. Then you see the people who work the hardest usually have the least. That doesn’t seem fair does it? But that’s the way the universe works.Unfortunately, those who work the hardest usually have the least because they haven’t learned the leverage of aligning their energy. They are going about creating their lives the hard way. They are trying to use their actions to create what they want.We have also been programmed that in order to have what we desire we must work hard. How many times have you heard – “No pain, no gain.” The implication is that if you want to make something of yourself, you must work hard. The message is clear - if you are not hurting or struggling, you are not moving forward.But here is the truth - anytime you are struggling you are miscreating. Anytime you feel pain or struggle, your magnetic point of attraction is directed to that which you do not want, rather than to that which you desire. Read it again!Actions are necessary, but they are the last component of the creation processes. Actions cannot be used effectively to initiate results, because initiation is the function of BEING, then thought, then action.Remember, the creation of anything is through your vibration. Everything vibrates, and it is by that vibration that we harmonize and attract experiences to ourselves. So before you act or do anything, first ask yourself, how am I vibrating? How do you tell? You tell by how you FEEL. Your feelings show you your vibration. How you feel determines what you attract.When you use the process of creating by only focusing on what you want instead of what you don’t want, you will see that the universe will provide a different set of circumstances for you that requires much less action. This puts you in a state of “doing without doing” or action without effort.Speaking of which...did anybody catch the Oprah "Secret" spoof on SNL? Pretty funny

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Post by jeffe » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:46 am

Not me, but then I'm in the UK.I'm still having trouble trying to work out what SNL means.
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Post by sgs4u » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:54 am

Quote: SNL means.Saturday Nite Live

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Post by jeffe » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:00 am

Quote:Quote: SNL means.Saturday Nite LiveAh right.I think I can get that on satellite, though we are probably several shows behind. Which means NOT LIVE!!!!Damn.Can't they just tie all the satellites together with some string.
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