Your honest opinion needed of this new MASTER

[hazineju]

hi everyone, i'm so happy to hear the that the tweaks jeff made have made a positive difference to the song. sounds like the low end is still a source of discrepancy, thanks for the input nick, dean, billg, and heinsite. it's interesting to hear that some of you think the low end could still be boosted, on my speakers it really cuts through--that's why it's so good to hear different peoples' opinions. heinsite, i appreciate the comment about that one effect being a little too twisted, in one of my previous taxi reviews the reviewer said he loved some of the effects but thought a few didn't work as well, he didn't specify, so i'm thinking the one you disliked could be what he was talking about. i can hear how it's a bit distracting. so jeff if you're not sick of the song yet let me send you another vocal part in the next few days with those two spots changed up a bit (i have an idea or two...) (BTW the effect was putting on a filter with "resonance ticks")

[jeffabbey]

Hello Juliet,If you read Nickfever's 2nd post from the top you'll see he's referring to the kick of the drums. This is why I would like the track of just the instruments without the drums and another of just the drums. Also on the instrument track, be sure to mute the ocean wave sound. I think that it is interfering with the new EQ-ed version.Don't worry, I'm not getting sick of the song at all, and on the vocal track don't touch the EQ. You have that perfect and it works well when I'm doing the Master EQ.Jeff

[jay10music]

Hey Jeff..........listen to both tracks very carfully and the production on the master is right there..This is a good track with good lyrics and good choice of voices and sounds threw out the track.Panned well and the effects on the vocal done well 2.... Great Job.... .Jay....r-man

[jeffabbey]

Hi Roadrunner422,Actually it is Juliet Lyons (the singer) who is responsible for the music, panning and effects. What I've been working on is getting the vocal tracks out front. Plus, she has a lot of great effects going on in the instrument track that I've been trying to clarify without any of them getting in the way of the vocals.I've also been told by NickFever above that I've got to get more low end power to the drums. This is the next step that I'm taking. I've asked Juliet to send me the instrument track without the drums and a separate track of just the drums.I'm not working with the entire mix, just separate portions of it and it's my job to get a final product of the Master EQ. Juliet and I have been working on the project for a couple of weeks now and slowly but surely we're getting there. That's why I hope you check back in later next weak. We'd love to hear your input.Thanks for the compliments,Jeff

[mojobone]

Jeff, your latest is superior to what I've heard before.You've brought out some clarity in the vocal that was lacking, IMO. Listening on headphones, here, so I can't say for certain, but I'm not sure you can get much more low end out of the drums without throwing the overall balance out of whack. It sounds pretty good from where I'm sittin'. I'll listen again when I can fire up the monitors.

[jeffabbey]

Hi Mojobone,Thanks for taking the time to listen and thanks for the compliments. Juliet and I have been working very hard to bring this song up to a standard that will pass the screener and get a forward.Juliet is sending me a track of just the drums and another of the remaining instruments without the drums. The bass instrument as well as the rest of the song will stay just as it is. I intend to keep the master mix just as it is and then with the drums I want to just punch them a little so to compliment the bass instrument, which will stay as it is. It's just a little final touch that I want to try which I can take out if it doesn't work.Juliet has some great sound effects that are going on in the instrument track that she sent me and as I try to clarify one thing something else gets disturbed. If the final touches don't work we'll just keep the Master as it is.Again, thanks for taking the time to listen,Jeff

[hazineju]

hi jeff the separated tracks are on their way, hopefully it will help. i changed that vocal effect too at those two spots heinsite mentioned- the first spot i left it on but just for the last word of the phrase, i don't think it's too distracting that way. (?) gonna be out of town the next two and a half weeks (see giggage ) but should hopefully be able to check in from time to time and see how it's going! thanks roadrunner and mojobone for your comments and everyone's continued help!

[jeffabbey]

Hi Juliet,You've taken out my favorite effect on the VOX at 2:09. Are you sure that the screener was referring to this effect. These vocal effects really help keep it in the "electronic" category and for my opinion should remain. But it's your call.If you're busy getting ready for your trip and don't have time to respond, I'm going to leave the original in because it will be very easy to switch back later.Jeff

[blujonny]

I'm not sure if you're looking more for technical critique, but I will say that I feel the song loses it's emotional edge somewhere in the middle and plateaus for a while. I'm not sure what marketplace you are looking for with this song, but I would focus on structuring the song more like a traditional song with a lot more definition and structure rather than the fleeting drawn out composition that it is now. I have to say some of those passages, especially in the second half of the song, are amazing. The melodic inflections are very organized and effective. I don't see the need for the song to go on for so long. I would identify the most significant parts of the song emotionally and make sure they add up to a song with real character. I love the intent of this song, however in line with what I said previously, I feel the song is not linear enough. Now obviously part of the song's appeal is that it is very dreamlike with some attributes, I notice, of European trance music but I still feel it needs to captivate with a subtle but more identifiable hook. Sometimes I notice that songs like this get lost in their own self importance without respect for the listener. This song however doesn't go that far because I believe the listener is always immersed in the dreamlike atmosphere of the song but being a bit more fluid couldn't hurt. This song is very professional and the imagination of it is incredible.

[jeffabbey]

Jun 25, 2008, 11:20am, blujonny wrote:This song is very professional and the imagination of it is incredible.Hello Blujonny,We are looking more for technical critique on “My Siren Song”. It would be placed in the TV/Film, electonica category, so by viewing it more as a love scene will give an understanding of where the song is going.The original screener of the song loved it but was dissatisfied with the overall mix. That’s what I’m trying to accomplish so the song is ready for re-submittal.You’ve hit it square on the head in that it has that dream like state. Juliet Lyons not only sings the song but also wrote the song, music, and special effects. When I first received the song for mastering, it was only then that I was able to hear not only the lyrics but also the special effects that she’s added.At the present time I am now working on the third and hopefully the final mix and master. I hope to have it up by late tomorrow.I have posted her song up because I have a problem with my main sound card and so I need other’s opinions about what they are hearing on their systems because I don’t trust mine at the present time.Thank you for your compliment and I hope you’ll check back tomorrow to hear the next master. Your opinion is valued.Jeff