Your honest opinion needed of this new MASTER

[jeffabbey]

Hi mojobone,If I'm not mistaken, New Age is electronica, but I may be wrong.Anyway, here is the link for My Siren Song version 8...http://abbeydigitalarts.com/Juliet_Lyon ... g8.mp3This is the link for My Siren Song version 6...http://abbeydigitalarts.com/Juliet_Lyon ... ong-6.mp3I did version #8 because in my headphones I found that I was hearing distortions in version #6. Also in version #8 I was able to clarify some of the background effects more. You may not be able to tell the difference because it's more of one of those nuance thingies.Jeff

[mojobone]

Nope, I can hear it. Much better definition in the bass, as well. That low drum (Djembe?) that was distorting is cleaner, yet still audible. Nice work!Hadn't thought about it that way, but yeah, I guess New Age could be a subset of Electronica, used to be the other way 'round, he said, dating himself.

[hazineju]

hey guys and thanks mojobone for your continued listens!! fyi the original of this song is definitely classified as new age (this is a remix that i attempted to make electronica in style) i didn't like to admit being new age for a while but nowadays i'm cool with it,- that just seems to be what comes out of me most naturally and i do take the enya and kate bush comparisons as compliments so thanks for that! jeff, looks like we should give mix 8 a try next time i see an appropriate listing, any last thoughts/opinions?

[jeffabbey]

Hi Juliet,Just let me know if you are going to change the vocal. I happen to like it as it is but it's your call. It's my hope that I'm bringing "My Siren Song" to an acceptable standard because as I said before, I just do trust my equipment any more. One sound card works for on set of speaks but not for another and as a result I'm doing guess work. If you take a real good listen to #6 you will hear a distortion in a few place. Though #6 sound stronger it really is just louder.With #8 we have enough head room so that however takes it they will be able to do the tweaking of the EQ to make it fit what ever production they are putting it into.JeffHi Mojobone,Thanks for taking the time to listen to both cuts. Your input is very much appreciated.As I was writing this post I only just found your comment about the similarity with Kate Bush and I'd say, "Yes, there is a similarity". Perhaps that why I've taken such a liking to this song.Jeff

[heinsite]

hi jumping in again guys--i really like version 8, though still can't hear as much clarity as i'd like in the lyrics, no matter what i personally listen on--but maybe because there's so much going on in this--still a beautiful piece of music, and hell, might just be me.one question--AND DON'T TAKE THIS WRONG! i find the lyrics and the vox so wonderful when i hear them with less FX, say at 1:47 area and on, have you considered remixing this without so many FX? seems like you could "cross genre" it well as a pop or alt or movie track as well that way. just an idea. sure that's where it may have started. wonderful either way and any way!the best, warren

[jeffabbey]

Hi Heinsite,The reason I put the post up for Juliet was to get input from people so I’m glad that you are jumping in again. These are the kinds of things that I need to hear. I’m doing a lot of guesswork here, so I need the input.My fear is that I’m not getting this song up to the standard that it needs to be for a movie track, and that’s where I feel it belongs. As I’ve stated in an above post, my main sound interface is down so I’m doing a lot of guesswork while using a different sound interface. I had a friend of mine out in Hollywood (Frank Briggs) take a listen to it and I asked him what he is hearing through his system. He said that it sounded real good. When I asked him if he thought it was movie track quality he said, “No, but if a movie producer wanted the track, they would simply re-master.” However, though that may be the case with a movie producer, it still has to make it past the TAXI screener and that’s what concerns me. And so now it’s time to start the “Refurbish Jeff Abbey’s Sound Interface” campaign. And to kick off the campaign I’m going to kick in the first ten dollars. And yes, $5,000 donations will be accepted because heck, I need to pay off my VISA bill and there’s also a new car that I’d like to get. Jeff

[heinsite]

hell jeff,i'll donate something, if you will donate in like amounts to the "help warren hein learn to write a damned song." contest. compared to you guys, i'm still using flint and steel here....but anyway, the tune does sound very very good, and depending on the listing, may fly--you are DEAD ON about the listing vs. the screener thing, if they don't get past their ears, screwed. i'd still say i'd like to hear (literally) clearer vox. there may be just too much going on for that to happen, but i aint no technician, so can be of little help...the best, still really like it though...warren

[jeffabbey]

Hi Warren,Would you say you're hearing a bit too much reverb or do you feel that the background should just be pulled back a bit?I don't have the full mix so I'm a little limited. The VOX that I have already has all of the effect as well as the background voices. I have the bass instrument track, drum track and the ocean wave sound effect track.Juliet is doing a gig in Colorado right now but she said that she'll be checking in on the post when she gets time to do so.She does intend to do a little more tweaking on the VOX and then she going to send me the new track so your input is important.Jeff

[heinsite]

hi jeff, damn if i didn't reply and get "timed out"--6 hours isn't long enough?ok, this is what i said/think:it is BOTH the backing needed to be pulled back some, but also the lead vox needs to be clearer, for sake of a better term. more eq i imagine, and this is why to my ear: in this great production, there is so much going we hear, and when her lead vox is clear, it is literally a very nice breath of fresh air to the ears--as it should be being the lead vox. now you might want to pass on what i've said to juliet, and she can throw something at me from colorado (and then sign with the SF Giants, who need good arms...) or hear what tweak she has already. but i believe it's both the backing and the lead. the problem i can see would be which tracks to lay back on, as it seems like there are MANY (?). allot going on--and do NOT get me wrong, it's all good, just pull some of it back, leave some up front, but do NOT step on those very nice vox. that's the only way i can put it. i've got a very good ear, but i'm a terrible musician/sound engineer, so man it's tough to voice it sometimes....can you imagine my poor demo cos. when i try to tell them this crap? yikes!good luck,warren

[mojobone]

Jeff, I'd say you're doing great given what you have to work with, by which I don't mean the song or the vocals, which are both great. I mean that to really do a remix justice, you're going to need all the submixes, at a minimum, and , ideally, all the tracks. I would probably request Lead vocal, Backing vocals, Drums, Bass, Keys and vocal FX tracks, for starters. There are still some keys (Rhodes) notes that bug me a little, but that's maybe an artistic decision. Yeoman work, so far, IMO.