Holy Crap!!!

[matto]

Quote:A possible negative: substandard "artists" that nevertheless look great will get an even more over-inflated false sense of self-confidence because they will be made to sound great in the studio. The proof will be when they attempt to go live. Unless, of course, the record label hires an MD that plays the right vocal tracks from his/her laptop at the right time.MazzTwo reasons I don't think this will have much of an impact in the way you describe: 1- The only thing new here is the ability to fix polyphonic tracks, so it only affects guitarists and keyboard players (and it remains to be seen how well this tool works on complex synth sounds or heavily distorted powerchords). Fixing bad singing, drumming and bass playing has been possible for years with Melodyne, Autotune and other software. 2- It's been common practice for years now to replace a band's good looking but terrible guitar player's or hot but sucky drummer's tracks with session musicians for the record.While this software would theoretically make it possible to "fix" the sucky guitar player's or keyboardist's tracks , it will still be a lot faster and easier to do it the old fashioned way...by hiring a ringer.matto

[mazz]

Quote:Quote:A possible negative: substandard "artists" that nevertheless look great will get an even more over-inflated false sense of self-confidence because they will be made to sound great in the studio. The proof will be when they attempt to go live. Unless, of course, the record label hires an MD that plays the right vocal tracks from his/her laptop at the right time.MazzTwo reasons I don't think this will have much of an impact in the way you describe: 1- The only thing new here is the ability to fix polyphonic tracks, so it only affects guitarists and keyboard players (and it remains to be seen how well this tool works on complex synth sounds or heavily distorted powerchords). Fixing bad singing, drumming and bass playing has been possible for years with Melodyne, Autotune and other software. 2- It's been common practice for years now to replace a band's good looking but terrible guitar player's or hot but sucky drummer's tracks with session musicians for the record.While this software would theoretically make it possible to "fix" the sucky guitar player's or keyboardist's tracks , it will still be a lot faster and easier to do it the old fashioned way...by hiring a ringer.mattoYou mean the Archies didn't really play and sing? You just burst my bubble, man This software is cool but has little attraction for me at this point due to the heavily MIDI nature of what I do. If I did more audio than I do, I would be on it in a heartbeat. And yes, if I need that live sax or horn or even guitar player, I'm gonna bring in a ringer anyway!Holy Crap! still applies, though! Mazz

[andreh]

Quote:And yes, if I need that live sax or horn or even guitar player, I'm gonna bring in a ringer anyway!Even if you've brought in a great player, there are times when this tool could be helpful. Especially in the ad world, tight deadlines and ambiguous [or at least difficult for some producers to put into words] creative goals often mean last-minute musical changes.I can also see this being of benefit to songwriters who've made some changes to a song after paying for a demo, but don't have the funds (or would rather put them elsewhere) to re-track certain parts.This technology will negatively affect the number of gigs available to studio players (just as Autotune/Beat Detective/Sound Replacer/etc. have), but I doubt if many serious players will lower their "bar" and decide they don't need to practice as much anymore.Personally, I'm totally stoked...and I'm pretty sure most of my clients (especially the ones who pay me by the hour) will be too! André

[mazz]

Even if you got that great sax solo, you'd probably be called upon to make an edit or something so I can see where it would be very helpful in a pinch.As I mentioned in another post, there will always be "the sky is falling" mentality when something like this comes out. But smart guys like Andre and Matto always see the silver lining. That's why they make the big bucks.Mazz

[geo]

Man.... I wish I had this when I was trying to write a song using MODES!!!!!Interesting debate going on the subject of how this effects music... my $0.02...Somebody's gotta turn the dials, decide on the melody etc... the human are still in the mix .... I'm sure the composers are chomping at the bit ... not for me though... Geo

[mewman]

I don't know why anyone would get their panties in a knot over this software. If anything is killing live music it's the ridiculously high price for tickets and the raising of the drinking age to twenty one. Add to that the ear ripping volume that most bands play at in bars. I've gone out to see acoustic guitarists who were so loud I had to scream to be understood by my girlfriend. How romantic! Frankly, maybe we should be more worried about the good looking younger musicians who can offer the audiences the eye candy and softcore porn that they crave. I'm a jazz guy, for the most part, and I can tell you that their is no shortage of kick ass musicians making the rounds here in Montreal. The only problem with the live scene has nothing to do with the availability of Melodyne software, it's the fact that young students are willing to work for peanuts and are driving down the price that club owners are willing to pay for a quality act.There, have I covered enough ground for one message?Mewman