SINGER/SONGWRITER SONGS a la Bob Dylan,

[bmete]

Hey Billg This one has your name written all over it..... I don't know why they posted this listing, they should have just contacted you directly.. Bob

[devin]

Seconded!

[squids]

I emailed him when I got it. I'm like "you got this right? Cuz geez, talk about a tailored listing!"Heh. And he betta pitch to it. I don't wanna have to kick his azz righteous.

[billg]

Well, I submitted Compliments In Lavender & Deja Vu Blues so I guess we'll see. I might have some others I could submit but I figure if those two don't make it the others wouldn't. I've been getting a little "gun shy" with the submissions lately.

[davewalton]

Jun 29, 2008, 12:49pm, billg wrote:I've been getting a little "gun shy" with the submissions lately.BEGINNING OF "PEP TALK"In addition to Taxi and other things, I've been submitting to another "listings based" online thing for at least three years now. Never received so much as a nibble until recently when I was contacted to do some music for a film from one of those listings. So... if the listings are there and somebody is going to get the gig, might as well throw your hat into the ring. It's no fun submitting for three years and getting nothing but the sound of an empty room with chirping crickets but I kept submitting for listings I knew were right for me.END OF "PEP TALK"We know good music when we hear it so keep submitting!

[crs7string]

Bill,I think there are three stages, or questions one has to answer, to this TAXI journey of submissions, returns and forwards, and deals.1. Can I do this?This is the stage where you post a track on the forum and get chewed to bits.We've all been there. Some people stay and continue to get chewed up and improve their craft, some people fold and are never heard of again. I think you most likely have proven you can do this.2. Can I be successful at this and make some money?I'm still trying to answer this one. Unfortunately, I think this takes several years and some critical mass of forwards and deals .(this is where I should pitch Matto's You Tube videos) The other unfortunate piece of this is the returns. I've grown immune to returns, still get them regularly, but now view a forward as a favorable introduction, An intro to a business partner that can hopefully grow over time.If it takes ten returns to get the forward and the start of a relationship why do the ten returns matter?3. How much money can I make doing this? I suspect there are a handful of folks stirring around here that are pondering this question. I think this probably takes a lot of good relationships and time,time, time to get here.This is my version of a Pep Talk. I think one attribute all successful people share is being "too stupid to quit" I'm stupid enough to not quit, I hope you are too. Chuck

[billg]

"too stupid to quit" that's me for sure.I went waaaay out there a while back & submitted for about 15 (I think) listings that I felt pretty good about for the most part. I got a few forwards out of it but mostly a bunch of returns. it's made me take a closer look at things. I think I'm entering a "period of adjustment" although I have no idea of exactly what that means just yet!

[squids]

I'm in the period of adjustment right now too, bill. It's an interesting place ta be and it's a win-win no matta what we decide, really. I mean, if we keep going, it's clear that if we're somewhat diverse but very very good at the niche things we do, we'll see success. When that will happen appears to be the question. How long can we hold out is the tail end of that question. I stopped submitting about three months ago. Not because I didn't like the returns as much as I wanted my money to go a little bit farther and clearly, I was misreading my chances (or rather, not submitting correctly) by getting the return ratio I was getting. If, on the other hand, we choose not to continue, then we gain more time to do other things we enjoy as much as we did this. And who knows? Whatever we choose to do (if it's not this) might even make some cash too. Hopefully not taking 8-10 years to happen, though. So either way, we can't lose.

[billg]

Well, I certainly appreciate everyone's confidence in my tracks being forwarded for this listing but they weren't. I received the emails . . . four returns total for the day. I know I didn't mis-read these listing this time around . . . two of my returns have been forwarded for similiar listings. Recently I've been trying very hard to stay positive. I'm at least making some progress outside of Taxi, that helps me stay focused . . . but lately Taxi has been nothing more than a HUGE ass buzz kill for me.

[bmete]

Hey Bill,Un FRIGGING believable , I can't believe it. I sure would love to hear what got through on this listing......Keep you chin up... life and this music industry is nothing but a big roller coaster ride, soon it will start turning up.....Bob